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Originally posted by Mountain ManLike I said, if you think you're going to be able to stand on your own merits before an almighty God and "good enough" your way into heaven then you have nothing to worry about. But you had better be damn sure you really are "good enough" just in case this whole atheism thing doesn't pan out.
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Like I said, if you think you're going to be able to stand on your own merits before an almighty God and "good enough" your way into heaven then you have nothing to worry about. But you had better be damn sure you really are "good enough" just in case this whole atheism thing doesn't pan out. Or you can accept God's forgiveness now and remove all doubt.
It's up to you.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostAnd like I said, it's an idiotic thing to believe that an omniscient, just, and merciful god would judge and punish people due to their lack of belief. Sorry, but it's just idiotic.
Of course you should be aware that you beg the question that people are justified to not believe in God's existence.Last edited by Mountain Man; 12-31-2018, 02:25 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostStarlight does not speak for Eastern Christians. While he has professed admiration for this or that aspect of Eastern Christianity, he notably failed to embrace Eastern Christianity as a whole."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostEastern Christianity has developed its own sets of mistakes and idiocies. But they aren't the same ones as Western Christianity.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt would be interesting if you would elaborate.Last edited by Starlight; 12-31-2018, 04:40 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostEastern Christianity has developed its own sets of mistakes and idiocies. But they aren't the same ones as Western Christianity.
And studying the different paths of theological development of two relatively independent theological traditions is informative.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe fall of the Empire in the West severely hampered its ability to communicate with the East given the language barrier; after that point, divergent development was not at all unlikely.Last edited by Starlight; 12-31-2018, 04:50 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWell apart from the format of their church services which isn't to my baptist-upbringing's tastes, theologically a couple of bizarre developments of theirs that stand out are the invention of their God's "essence" vs God's "energies" distinction,
...and their Platonic atonement model in which Jesus pumps Divinity into Humanity by virtue of being God incarnated much like you'd pump gas into a car, as in their view Jesus's very combining of the platonic form of Humanity with the form of Divinity within his own body in the incarnation reunited those two forms that had been separated and thus restored the Image of God within Humanity.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHere's a quip you may have come across in the past: If you find the perfect church, don't join it - you'll ruin it!
"Why would I want to join a church? They're full of liars and hypocrites!"
"In that case, you'll fit right in."Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWell the Greek vs Latin language barrier was there from the start, even before the split.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThat IS bizarre; it is not at all anything like an accurate representation, however.
What is your favorite way of describing the doctrine?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHere's a quip you may have come across in the past: If you find the perfect church, don't join it - you'll ruin it!
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLike the old joke goes...
"Why would I want to join a church? They're full of liars and hypocrites!"
"In that case, you'll fit right in."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou should try reading some Eastern Orthodox theologians, you might learn something.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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