Shutdown Over Border Security?

[Bill the Cat]

Indeed, the Trump administration has reportedly closed or blocked the legal ports of entry, in order to illegal prevent people from requesting asylum. Trump should follow the immigration laws as written and not illegally prevent those asylum seekers applying for asylum.

There have been a few temporary closings at San Ysidro to get the entrance area under control as groups from the caravan try to storm through, but not to prevent people from requesting asylum. Even the Mexican authorities have said the caravan gets out of control periodically.

Bill's complaint appears to be basically that some of us don't agree with him about the different extents to which different existing laws should be enforced.

Wrong. It's that DACA has nothing to do with the wall, so acting like bribing the President with wall funding to allow a large group of illegals to break immigration law unpunished is some grand gesture on the part of the Dems is utter crap.

[Bill the Cat]

As usual Trump is playing to his racist base in keeping asylum-seekers out...all under the guise of their not following due process, whilst at the same time making "due-process" impossibly hard to observe.

And idiots like you continue to try to label whore those who actually want immigration laws enforced. Due process isn't hard. Thousands do it every day. We had 1.16 Million new LEGAL immigrants in 2016, so it can't be but so hard. That's 1/3 the entire population of New Zealand that became legal immigrants in 1 year.

[Charles]

And you libtards are only known for your "compassion" for future voters. Just like the pimps you are.

It would not occur to you that anyone could actually have compassion for strangers and look at other human beings as a ends in themselves?

[Bill the Cat]

It would not occur to you that anyone could actually have compassion for strangers and look at other human beings as a ends in themselves?

Certainly, but compassion should not include tacit compliance with lawbreaking.

[One Bad Pig]

It would not occur to you that anyone could actually have compassion for strangers and look at other human beings as a ends in themselves?

When, e.g., homelessness tends to become a hot-button issue when Republicans are in power, but minimized when Democrats are in power, evidence shows that compassion is not in view.

[Terraceth]

Well, I guess I picked the right department of the government to work in--the VA's funding isn't affected by the shutdown at all thanks to it having already been set for this year.

[Tassman]

Certainly, but compassion should not include tacit compliance with lawbreaking.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

[One Bad Pig]

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Sure. What does it mean to "love thy neighbour as thyself"?

We are commanded by the Scriptures to obey the government except in matters where doing so would cause us to sin. If we help an illegal alien break the law, we are helping them to sin. We could give them the world, but at the cost of them losing their soul - which is the antithesis of loving them.

[JimL]

Sure. What does it mean to "love thy neighbour as thyself"?

We are commanded by the Scriptures to obey the government except in matters where doing so would cause us to sin. If we help an illegal alien break the law, we are helping them to sin. We could give them the world, but at the cost of them losing their soul - which is the antithesis of loving them.

And who is asking you to help immigrants to break the law?

[One Bad Pig]

And who is asking you to help immigrants to break the law?

Try to follow the conversation, Jim.

[JimL]

Try to follow the conversation, Jim.

So, who is asking you to help immigrants to break the law?

[Roy]

No, illeal is not a word I'm familiar with.

I wasn't either - I am now.

[Bill the Cat]

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

You have no idea what that is even talking about...

[Bill the Cat]

I wasn't either - I am now.

That reply was typed on my phone. I missed a character. Sue me.

[Bill the Cat]

So, who is asking you to help immigrants to break the law?

Your Democrat overlords who push for things like DACA and sanctuary cities.