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  • Originally posted by seer View Post
    Jim, that is not what the Founders believed, they believed in an actual God that was the giver or rights and duties. So how is that "secular?"
    No, they did not all believe in God, and they certainly weren't all christians. Many of them were believers, but so what, they were sure to separate what people chose to believe from any government interference. You apparently want a theocracy seer, but that's actually an impossibility, God, if he exists at all, apparently isn't interested.

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    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
      No, they did not all believe in God, and they certainly weren't all christians. Many of them were believers, but so what, they were sure to separate what people chose to believe from any government interference. You apparently want a theocracy seer, but that's actually an impossibility, God, if he exists at all, apparently isn't interested.
      The majority were Christian, and those who weren't still believed that our rights and duties were God given. That is not a secular doctrine Jim, our founding document was not secular in nature. No matter how you protest that is a fact.
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • Originally posted by seer View Post
        The majority were Christian, and those who weren't still believed that our rights and duties were God given. That is not a secular doctrine Jim, our founding document was not secular in nature. No matter how you protest that is a fact.
        Wrong, the Constitution is completely secular "WE the people".

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Wrong, the Constitution is completely secular "WE the people".
          Jim, the Constitution does not address the source of our rights, that was ALREADY established in the Declaration.
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • Originally posted by seer View Post
            Jim, the Constitution does not address the source of our rights, that was ALREADY established in the Declaration.

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            • The latest...


              Fury over rare white lion being auctioned off 'to be shot by trophy hunters'

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • That sucks!
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • I wonder how much Donald Trump Jr. bid?

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                  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    I wonder how much Donald Trump Jr. bid?
                    At least a thousand times as much as he offered yo momma smiley rimshot.gif

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                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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