I Wish The Elephants Had Trampled...

[mossrose]

Please don't descend to JimL's level. He'll beat you with experience.

My husband learned a long time ago to never call me silly. It raises my hackles and makes me quite put out.

Jim has had fair warning, now.

[JimL]

so what you are saying is that if you want to prevent an animal from existing, killing it when it is a fetus is equivalent to killing the adult, but more "humane"

You just admitted that the fetus is a living creature of the same species as the adult.

No, actually that's not what I said at all. I suggest you learn to read what is actually stated rather than seeing what you want to see.

[Sparko]

No, actually that's not what I said at all. I suggest you learn to read what is actually stated rather than seeing what you want to see.

We all read what you said. You just are too stupid to realize what you actually admitted.

[JimL]

That's what I said. They are as morally bankrupt as you.

Yeah, if you say so.

So, you think that "real Christians" are the ones that are compromising with the culture and accepting everything that God calls evil. Well, you can go ahead and think that, but once again, silly little boy, you are wrong, to your own eternal detriment.

No, I think real christians are those who support political agendas that take the needs and concerns of actual living persons into consideration rather than feigning outrage about non-being fetuses.

[JimL]

We all read what you said. You just are too stupid to realize what you actually admitted.

So you're saying that "they all" are as stupid as you?

[Sparko]

Yeah, if you say so.




No, I think real christians are those who support political agendas that take the needs and concerns of actual living persons into consideration rather than feigning outrage about non-being fetuses.

Matthew 12:36 King James Version (KJV)

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

[Zymologist]

Seer, you're assuming in this question that I think about the fetus the same way as you do.

A human fetus is by definition human offspring. To deny this is to deny what is obviously true.

[Sparko]

A human fetus is by definition human offspring. To deny this is to deny what is obviously true.

Liberal Atheists love science till it comes to things like abortion or gender.

[Tassman]

We have shown you over and over that you are wrong about what Jews believed and taught about life of a fetus and abortion. Yet in every conversation you trot out the same lies. You are a dishonest hack and a despicable person who promotes murder of innocent babies which makes you the lowest form of pond scum.

[Tassman]

You keep bleating about this imaginary 4000 year tradition when I have provided you sources from around the time of Christ abortion was called murder and was thought as such by those who commented on it in the early Christian Church.

• Sibylline Oracles
• Pseudo-Phocylides
• Flavius Josephus
• Didache
• Apocalypse of Peter
• Epistle of Barnabas
• Athenagoras of Athens
• Clement of Alexandria
• Hippolytus of Rome
• Basil the Great
• John Chrysostom

That sort of puts the lie to your claim.

[Tassman]

That's what I said. They are as morally bankrupt as you.



So, you think that "real Christians" are the ones that are compromising with the culture and accepting everything that God calls evil. Well, you can go ahead and think that, but once again, silly little boy, you are wrong, to your own eternal detriment.

You Evangelicals have so much judgemental hatred. Why would a 'loving deity' condemn a "silly little boy" (as you nastily claim JimL to be), to eternal damnation.

[CMD]

You Evangelicals have so much judgemental hatred. Why would a 'loving deity' condemn a "silly little boy" (as you nastily claim JimL to be), to eternal damnation.

JimL calls mossrose a "silly little girl"
Tassman: *crickets*
mossrose responds to JimL's "silly little girl" comment with "silly little boy"
Tassman: "silly little boy? what a nasty claim!"

[rogue06]

I could also add I Enoch, Origen, Tertullian, Cyprian, Jerome, the Apostolic Constitutions , the Synod of Elvira, the Synod Ancyra, and 3rd ecumenical council (Chalcedon) if you wish. The point being that we have a consistent record of thought spanning well over three centuries showing opposition to abortion.

[Leonhard]

From OP to abortion derail in two replies. That's a new academy record!

[rogue06]

From OP to abortion derail in two replies. That's a new academy record!

A derail in two replies is hardly likely a Tweb record.