Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer (2018)

[Cow Poke]

Says one of our local anarchists.

In your opinion.

Ah, so now you're into the juvenile purposeful misspelling of people/things with whom you don't agree. So very mature.

[lilpixieofterror]

Men are still fathers and get saddled with raising children too.

[Mountain Man]

And what have you to say about the men who cause these unwanted pregnancies?

Do men have any say in the matter? I mean, when a woman wants to kill her unborn child, is the father consulted? No. He's told to mind his own business.

But if the woman decides to let the baby live, suddenly the man is on the hook for two-decades of child support.

Doncha just love liberal hypocrisy?

[Leonhard]

Do men have any say in the matter? I mean, when a woman wants to kill her unborn child, is the father consulted? No. He's told to mind his own business.

But if the woman decides to let the baby live, suddenly the man is on the hook for two-decades of child support.

Doncha just love liberal hypocrisy?

The thing about the man being on hook for two-decades seems perfectly fine by me. Its the whole 'having the legal power to kill her fetus' that I'm against.

[Mountain Man]

The thing about the man being on hook for two-decades seems perfectly fine by me. Its the whole 'having the legal power to kill her fetus' that I'm against.

You're missing the point. If dad is on the hook to care for the baby after birth then he should certainly have a say in whether or not mom has an abortion. Liberals have erected another double-standard.

[firstfloor]

You're missing the point. If dad is on the hook to care for the baby after birth then he should certainly have a say in whether or not mom has an abortion. Liberals have erected another double-standard.

Only if the couple contracted together to have a baby, otherwise it is hers alone. If the pregnancy is unwanted, the man has committed a criminal fertilization and may be subject to castration, if natural justice had anything to do with it. The woman should be entitled to state sponsored abortion because of the benefit that the state receives by not having unwanted mouths to feed in a world whose resources are limited.

[Mountain Man]

Only if the couple contracted together to have a baby, otherwise it is hers alone. If the pregnancy is unwanted, the man has committed a criminal fertilization and may be subject to castration, if natural justice had anything to do with it. The woman should be entitled to state sponsored abortion because of the benefit that the state receives by not having unwanted mouths to feed in a world whose resources are limited.

And you would be in favor of eliminating any law that forces a man to pay to support a child that was carried to term without his consent?

[firstfloor]

And you would be in favor of eliminating any law that forces a man to pay to support a child that was carried to term without his consent?

If a man gives his seed to a woman, that constitutes consent because the risk of pregnancy is always non-zero. The situation you refer to, never arises.

[Mountain Man]

If a man gives his seed to a woman, that constitutes consent because the risk of pregnancy is always non-zero. The situation you refer to, never arises.

Therefore, you promote a double-standard.

Q.E.D.

[rogue06]

Only if the couple contracted together to have a baby, otherwise it is hers alone. If the pregnancy is unwanted, the man has committed a criminal fertilization and may be subject to castration, if natural justice had anything to do with it. The woman should be entitled to state sponsored abortion because of the benefit that the state receives by not having unwanted mouths to feed in a world whose resources are limited.

This logic could also be and was applied to euthanizing the living as well

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Translated: "60,000 Reichsmark is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People's community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read '[A] New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the NSDAP."

It also sounds like you're trying to make a case for post-birth abortions that folks like starlight endorses.

[firstfloor]

Therefore, you promote a double-standard.

Q.E.D.

[firstfloor]

This logic could also be and was applied to euthanizing the living as well

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Translated: "60,000 Reichsmark is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People's community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read '[A] New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the NSDAP."

[Sparko]

dang First Floor almost trolled me into engaging him. almost.

sigh.

[Cow Poke]

dang First Floor almost trolled me into engaging him. almost.

sigh.

He's just trying to change the subject from Gosnell's incomprehensible butchery under the guise of 'family planning'.

[firstfloor]

He's just trying to change the subject from Gosnell's incomprehensible butchery under the guise of 'family planning'.

No pro choice advocate is going to give you an arguement over Gosnell. I think it might be a movie that will only appeal to the pro-life mob who perhaps get a kick out of being disgusted. Could be?