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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror
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No. Nor (AFAICT) is the Danish oil industry government-owned. Not that it matters, since either government could have chosen an alternative approach. Your question is doubly irrelevant.Last edited by Roy; 09-26-2018, 08:04 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by Roy View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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Citation?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Explains how the Danish Oil industry contributes to the Danish Welfare state:Originally posted by Roy View Post
https://ens.dk/en/our-responsibiliti...ut-oil-and-gas
Says that the largest energy company in Denmark is majorly owned by the Danish government:
"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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The largest energy company in Denmark being majority government-owned is not the same as the Danish oil industry being majority government-owned. Not least because your own link says "in 2017, the company decided to phase-out the use of coal for power generation, and it sold off its oil and gas business to Ineos for US$1.05 billion." Oops.Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
Not that it matters. As I said, the US has higher oil production than Denmark. If the US oil industry doesn't contribute money to a social welfare system, it's not due to a lack of revenue. The Danish government puts oil revenue towards a welfare state. If the US government doesn't, and the result is that the US is not as well off regarding work force involvement, life expectancy and level of education, the US only has itself to blame.Last edited by Roy; 09-26-2018, 08:31 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
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Leave it up to Roy to try to nitpick his way to victory while ignoring the major point being made and unless the US oil industry pays zero taxes, your claim is bogus anyway. Denmark has much of its oil industry nationalized to pay for its welfare state. The second problem with your claim is there is no way nationalizing the US oil industry would pay for a large US welfare state. Since you love nitpicking, how much does the Congressional Budget Office estimate a national health care system would cost and what is the total profit the US oil industry brings in?Originally posted by Roy View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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Sparko, you'll get my opinion when I want to give it. If you don't want anyone answering posts adressed to you, then don't you answer posts adressed to someone other than yourself. And btw, it's you who doesn't have a clue about what Tass is saying, or if you do then you must be purposely playing ignorant.Originally posted by Sparko View PostComment
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You just deleted my response to the major point. Here it is again:Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
As I said, the US has higher oil production than Denmark. If the US oil industry doesn't contribute money to a social welfare system, it's not due to a lack of revenue. The Danish government puts oil revenue towards a welfare state. If the US government doesn't, and the result is that the US is not as well off regarding work force involvement, life expectancy and level of education, the US only has itself to blame.The US produces more oil than Denmark does. Oil revenue should be able to fund welfare in the US as well as it does in Denmark.... and unless the US oil industry pays zero taxes, your claim is bogus anyway. Denmark has much of its oil industry nationalized to pay for its welfare state. The second problem with your claim is there is no way nationalizing the US oil industry would pay for a large US welfare state.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...Comment
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Originally posted by Roy View PostLast edited by lilpixieofterror; 09-26-2018, 11:00 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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The US may produce more oil than Denmark does, but does it produce more oil per capita? Because that's the much more important number. It's like how China has the second highest GDP in the world but is around 71st in the world in GDP per capita--population matters a lot here.Originally posted by Roy View Post
I mean, maybe the US does produce a lot more oil per capita. But I'd like clarification if you're referring to total production or per capita production.Comment
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Yes, the US has about 50% more crude oil production per capita than Denmark from a quick browse of current production statistics on the internet.Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
I think you're getting unnecessarily detailed on this, as it is not necessary to have any oil production at all to run a good welfare state, only a willingness to levy taxes.But I'd like clarification if you're referring to total production or per capita production.
The total tax intake in Denmark is 46% of GDP while in the US it's only 26%. That's where the difference lies. It's obviously not necessary to have as advanced a welfare system as Denmark does, and the US could more easily move toward the middle ground occupied by the UK, Canada and NZ which tax at ~32% of GDP."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Terraceth View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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