Time To Smear Kavanaugh's Good Name...

[Mountain Man]

Gee, and all these allegations suddenly come to light after Kavanaugh passed the most contentious confirmation hearing in US history with flying colors. What a coincidence.

[seer]

Gee, and all these allegations suddenly come to light after Kavanaugh passed the most contentious confirmation hearing in US history with flying colors. What a coincidence.

I don't see how he gets through, especially with gutless Republicans.

[Mountain Man]

I don't see how he gets through, especially with gutless Republicans.

Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.

[oxmixmudd]

Oh lookie, more piling on:

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Michael Avenatti said he has 'significant evidence' that Brett Kavanaugh participated in sexual misconduct in high school

The attorney Michael Avenatti added to the sexual-misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh on Sunday, claiming he has "significant evidence" that the Supreme Court nominee participated in sexual misconduct in high school.

In an email to Mike Davis, the chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee, Avenatti said he had evidence that at house parties in the early 1980s, Kavanaugh, his friend Mark Judge, and others would target women using alcohol and drugs "in order to allow a 'train' of men to subsequently gang rape them."

Avenatti did not identify any witnesses or disclose more details about the allegations. He tweeted a screenshot of the email on Sunday evening after announcing he was representing "a woman with credible information" about Kavanaugh and Judge.



https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...vanaugh-2018-9

To me, again, it really isn't about the truth or falsity. It's the fact it was high school and early college. Unless it was a prosecutable, criminal offense like rape, I really don't think what somebody did in high school in this arena can hold a candle to what their lifetime of character shows they became. I doubt many in public service (or this forum) could survive* a deep look into their sexual or party behavior in high school or even college, especially prior to the 2000's. Even now its still a major party atmosphere out there. It's very much hypocrisy for any of these guys to be pointing fingers too harshly on this front.

Jim

And I am one that COULD survive such a look. But I know what went on with MOST of the kids in my high school, and in my college dorms. And I'm quite sure most of these guys (and gals) don't have a leg to stand on.

[oxmixmudd]

Feinstein, other Dems largely silent on abuse claims against Keith Ellison

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And that is wrong ... but a different topic.

Jim

[Sparko]

Gee, and all these allegations suddenly come to light after Kavanaugh passed the most contentious confirmation hearing in US history with flying colors. What a coincidence.

yeah all these people sat around for months and then just in the last week went, "Oh wait! THAT Kavanaugh! He tried to rape me! I totally forgot till now!"

[Bill the Cat]

And I am one that COULD survive such a look. But I know what went on with MOST of the kids in my high school, and in my college dorms. And I'm quite sure most of these guys (and gals) don't have a leg to stand on.

I couldn't. 18 and 19 were stupid years for me. Post-divorce and legal drinking on a military base...

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes they do. Very good reasons in fact. And those reasons have NOTHING to do with my point. In fact, you and Rogues responses are ALSO prima facia evidence of why her delay is credible. Here you are doing everything you can to push back against even acknowledging the delay is credible. We aren't even talking about the truth or falsity of the event, or the problems with those that deny her claims, we are talking about one very small part of the equation - the credibility of the delay - and you people are attacking my comments like an animal protecting its territory.

Pix - why don't you try empathy for just one time? What would you do if someone pushed themselves on you and you knew that person was powerful, well liked, had an impeccable reputation, and you did not have one shred of evidence it actually happened? Are you going to face most people doubting you, wondering why you would lie like that about such a good person? And for what? You can't prove ANYTHING about it. And the few people you thought could at least confirm the two of you were in the same place at the same time are saying they don't recall anything about it.



Jim

[Mountain Man]

That's about right. Personally, I'm not of the opinion that the accuser should automatically get the benefit of the doubt no matter how costly the accusation might be to them personally. It's no different than if someone is accused of any other crime. The presumption is that the accused is innocent until evidence is presented that proves their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In this case, every potential corroborating witness has flat out rejected the accusations against Kavanaugh, yet liberals are still trying to act like there's a better than 50/50 chance that he could be guilty! Have these people no sense of justice?

[lilpixieofterror]

That's about right. Personally, I'm not of the opinion that the accuser should automatically get the benefit of the doubt no matter how costly the accusation might be to them personally. It's no different than if someone is accused of any other crime. The presumption is that the accused is innocent until evidence is presented that proves their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In this case, every potential corroborating witness has flat out rejected the accusations against Kavanaugh, yet liberals are still trying to act like there's a better than 50/50 chance that he could be guilty! Have these people no sense of justice?

[oxmixmudd]

Such a sweet little lady

pix - you are hearing what you want to hear. And that little filter you use when you read won't allow you to comprehend anything I'm saying, its context, its purpose, its direction. So there really is no point in having any further discussions with you.

Jim

[seer]

Amen and amen Sis...

[lilpixieofterror]

Such a sweet little lady

pix - you are hearing what you want to hear. And that little filter you use when you read won't allow you to comprehend anything I'm saying, its context, its purpose, its direction. So there really is no point in having any further discussions with you.

Jim

[oxmixmudd]

As I said, you have no clue what I was actually talking about. So you wander off into la la land fighting windmills. Go back and see if you can reconcile this idiot tirade or yours with the most recent post I made to Sparko - post 499. You can't. You have not one ounce of understanding here in terms of what I was actually trying to say. So feel free to flail at the wind all you want crazy lady. And when and if you actually want to use that little brain of yours for something other than a hat rack and that mouth of yours for something other than derision, come back and we'll see what might be possible in terms of a discussion.


Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

As I said, you have no clue what I was actually talking about. So you wander off into la la land fighting windmills. Go back and see if you can reconcile this idiot tirade or yours with the most recent post I made to Sparko - post 499. You can't. You have not one ounce of understanding here in terms of what I was actually trying to say. So feel free to flail at the wind all you want crazy lady. And when and if you actually want to use that little brain of yours for something other than a hat rack and that mouth of yours for something other than derision, come back and we'll see what might be possible in terms of a discussion.


Jim

Pix - why don't you try empathy for just one time? What would you do if someone pushed themselves on you and you knew that person was powerful, well liked, had an impeccable reputation, and you did not have one shred of evidence it actually happened? Are you going to face most people doubting you, wondering why you would lie like that about such a good person? And for what? You can't prove ANYTHING about it. And the few people you thought could at least confirm the two of you were in the same place at the same time are saying they don't recall anything about it.