Time To Smear Kavanaugh's Good Name...

[lilpixieofterror]

I don't want to waste time on tangents

[carpedm9587]

Again, since I have already noted (several times) that both parties have engaged in this "take a side" posturing without adequate evidence, all you're doing is taking a side and acting as if I have as well. I have not. I have been clear that I believe both Kavanaugh and Ford were poorly treated.

[lilpixieofterror]

Again, since I have already noted (several times) that both parties have engaged in this "take a side" posturing without adequate evidence, all you're doing is taking a side and acting as if I have as well. I have not. I have been clear that I believe both Kavanaugh and Ford were poorly treated.

And yet one is being made a hero by the media and the other a villain with promises to impeach if elected. What side is it?

[carpedm9587]

And yet one is being made a hero by the media and the other a villain with promises to impeach if elected. What side is it?

Neither. Anyone "taking sides" at this point is doing so on inadequate information. IMO, both sides should be ashamed of themselves for letting their biases and political predilections govern their decision-making on such an issue.

[Terraceth]

Do you know Ford's general demeanor well enough to know that isn't her normal persona?

I personally know several very intelligent and successful women in their careers that present a very similar demeanor when stressed or sometimes just in everyday conversation. It's just who they are.

What evidence do you have other than your own disdain for her that you are correct in your assessment this aspect of her testimony was false?

It's further worth pointing out that studies and tests have constantly shown that humans are actually pretty bad at telling if someone is lying based on body language/demeanor; that is, so bad you might as well flip a coin to guess at it. Attempting to assess whether someone is telling the truth or not based on their demeanor is, contrary to what you'll often see in fiction, essentially an exercise in futility.

[Cow Poke]

It's further worth pointing out that studies and tests have constantly shown that humans are actually pretty bad at telling if someone is lying based on body language/demeanor; that is, so bad you might as well flip a coin to guess at it. Attempting to assess whether someone is telling the truth or not based on their demeanor is, contrary to what you'll often see in fiction, essentially an exercise in futility.

You never met my mother.

[Tassman]

Again, since I have already noted (several times) that both parties have engaged in this "take a side" posturing without adequate evidence, all you're doing is taking a side and acting as if I have as well. I have not. I have been clear that I believe both Kavanaugh and Ford were poorly treated.

[Psychic Missile]

https://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ing-kavanaugh/

Well, at least he was honest about what they were trying to do.

Both Sparko and LPoT have told me that rape victims should not name their rapists if they don't have any evidence.

More like:

A: "This man robbed me!"
B: "No I didn't!"
Officer: "And what evidence do you have that he robbed you?"
A: "Well, I'm accusing him, aren't I? That's more than enough evidence to start an investigation."
Officer: "You don't understand the burden of proof, do you sir?"
A: "The burden of what now?"
Officer: "Have a good evening, sir."

An accusation is enough evidence to spur a police officer to investigate. The lack of corroborating evidence can either indicate that the claim was false or prevent even an interested officer from investigating. Either way, I don't see the categorical difference between something that begins an investigation and something that renews an investigation.

[Psychic Missile]

We’ve tried the system of guilty till proven innocent. Did you not pay attention in your history class at the results? Mercy and protection of the innocent is just as important, if not more so, than justice and punishment of the guilty. If you want to live under your idiotic rules, try North Korea. Perhaps 20 years of hard labor for the crime of having dust on the picture of the dear leader might be enough to show you why guilty till proven innocent is a dumb idea.

You are conflating social and legal consequences. I have not been arguing that accusations without evidence should necessarily have legal repercussions.

I didn't ignore it, I asked you to provide the page number of the report so I can have the specific context of your objection.

[rogue06]

It is safe to say that no matter what the left would have found something to complain about and used it as an excuse to dismiss it.

[Tassman]

It is safe to say that no matter what the left would have found something to complain about and used it as an excuse to dismiss it.

[Mountain Man]

An accusation is enough evidence to spur a police officer to investigate. The lack of corroborating evidence can either indicate that the claim was false or prevent even an interested officer from investigating. Either way, I don't see the categorical difference between something that begins an investigation and something that renews an investigation.

Every accusation does not start on equal footing. If I accuse you of breaking into a house, but I can't say when it happened or where it happened, or even who's house was broken into, the police would maybe take my statement, and that would be the end of it, because there would be nothing to investigate.

[lilpixieofterror]

Both Sparko and LPoT have told me that rape victims should not name their rapists if they don't have any evidence.

An accusation is enough evidence to spur a police officer to investigate. The lack of corroborating evidence can either indicate that the claim was false or prevent even an interested officer from investigating. Either way, I don't see the categorical difference between something that begins an investigation and something that renews an investigation.

And if one is done and no evidence is found, is it okay to than destroy a life based on unbacked claims?

[lilpixieofterror]

You are conflating social and legal consequences. I have not been arguing that accusations without evidence should necessarily have legal repercussions.

Destroying a persons career, family, and life over unconfirmed accusations can have legal repercussions.

I didn't ignore it, I asked you to provide the page number of the report so I can have the specific context of your objection.

[lilpixieofterror]

It is safe to say that no matter what the left would have found something to complain about and used it as an excuse to dismiss it.