Hurricane Florence is all Trump's Fault

[firstfloor]

I hear the regime has been diverting funds away from FEMA and the Coast Guard so that they can build more and bigger internment camps for the little brown skinned kiddies.

[Sparko]

I hear the regime has been diverting funds away from FEMA and the Coast Guard so that they can build more and bigger internment camps for the little brown skinned kiddies.

Don't be silly. He is using the money to start his personal takeover of the world and develop weather control technology so he can create hurricanes at will.

[Starlight]

Much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the government in PR.

Perhaps, there should definitely be a serious independent investigation.

There were literally tons of supplies sent over there that sat undistributed.

This certainly appears to be true. Whether those supplies specifically would have made all the different, and whose fault it was that they weren't distributed is another matter entirely.

And any money Trump took out of FEMA wasn't done at the time of Maria was it?

No, it's been done since then... which means the lesson he learned from the worst natural disaster to hit the US in a century and his failures in its aftermath was... removing funding from the agency responsible for dealing with disasters. That's a failure that should get him kicked out of office right there.

FEMA is independent of Trump. I find it funny how you keep blaming Trump personally for the actions of government agencies like ICE or FEMA

It's a federal agency, and he is the president, so the buck stops with him. I believe in personal responsibility, don't you? Bush was responsible for what happened after Katrina, and Trump was responsible for what happened after Maria. It's how personal responsibility works.

Apparently in your world Trump personally supervises every agency in the US government.

That's his job, yes. Given he literally can't be everywhere, his job is to appoint 100s of people to head all these agencies that he trusts to do a good job, and to get those appointments right, because it's his reputation that's on the line if they don't. It's literally his job to get the right people doing the right things in those positions, the "best people" as he put it. And yes, he as their boss is responsible for their actions, because that's how the chain of command and responsibility work.

He is such a busy guy.

He ought to be. Instead, since coming into office, he's literally spent 1 in every 3 days on a golf-course he owns. And even when he's in town it appears he mostly watches TV all day like Reagan did rather than Presidenting. Of course, given the quality of his Presidenting, we're probably better off with him watching TV and playing golf while Americans die.

[Cow Poke]

I hear the regime has been diverting funds away from FEMA and the Coast Guard so that they can build more and bigger internment camps for the little brown skinned kiddies.

Source?

[Cow Poke]

I will admit to personally knowing next-to-nothing...

You should have stopped right there.

[Mountain Man]

Admittedly, I'm also of the opinion that one cannot truly attempt to rank any sitting president until they have left office, so I'd dislike the moniker of worst (or best) president being applied to any sitting president regardless.

I don't think a truly accurate assessment can be made until decades later, when people are finally able to stand back and look at a president objectively without emotional investment. I'm not even sure we're there yet for any president after Eisenhower. I still think that decades from now, Obama will be regarded as one of the least competent and least effective presidents in US history, but I readily admit that this is a biased assessment. Certainly anybody trying to render a historical judgment of Trump at this moment in time is going to be heavily influenced by highly subjective criteria one way or the other, which is why surveys like the one Dimbulb pointed to aren't worth the virtual paper they're printed on. And as I recall, that survey was discussed at length some time back, and the general consensus was that it was deeply flawed, largely because it's showing nothing more than the opinion of mostly liberal and strongly anti-Trump college instructors, so of course they're going to rate Trump as the worst president in history.

[Mountain Man]

And if I was hearing that, why hadn't the President been informed of that 24 hours earlier and why wasn't the President acting on it? That's "I'm calling in the military, I'll be in the situation room" time.

Because a military overthrow of the government and declaration marshal law would have solved everything.

Do you even think things through before you click the "post reply" button, or is this just your unedited stream-of-consciousness ramblings?

You say, "The President should have known what was going on over there!" What makes you so certain he didn't? I guarantee he knows far more about the situation than an armchair pontificate like you. You say, "Why didn't he do something!" What makes you so certain he wasn't doing everything that was logistically and legally possible? Literally tons of food, water, and other emergency supplies were shipped into the country, but they were left to rot because the corrupt Puerto Rican bureaucrats refused to distribute them to the people. Government officials were all smiles and exuded competence when Trump visited, but how they changed their tune as soon as Air Force 1 had left the runway. How is that Trump's fault, exactly? Oh, right, he was supposed to order a military invasion and take over relief operations by force. I'm sure that would have gone swimmingly.

[firstfloor]

Source?

[Cow Poke]

Rachel.

I was hoping for an actual cite, not the name of your girlfriend.

A) We're in the digital age, star, distance isn't a factor
2) You don't get the news, you get gossip and opinion



So, let's try this again....

I hear the regime has been diverting funds away from FEMA and the Coast Guard so that they can build more and bigger internment camps for the little brown skinned kiddies.

Actual citation for this?

[Sparko]

Because a military overthrow of the government and declaration marshal law would have solved everything.

Do you even think things through before you click the "post reply" button, or is this just your unedited stream-of-consciousness ramblings?

You say, "The President should have known what was going on over there!" What makes you so certain he didn't? I guarantee he knows far more about the situation than an armchair pontificate like you. You say, "Why didn't he do something!" What makes you so certain he wasn't doing everything that was logistically and legally possible? Literally tons of food, water, and other emergency supplies were shipped into the country, but they were left to rot because the corrupt Puerto Rican bureaucrats refused to distribute them to the people. Government officials were all smiles and exuded competence when Trump visited, but how they changed their tune as soon as Air Force 1 had left the runway. How is that Trump's fault, exactly? Oh, right, he was supposed to order a military invasion and take over relief operations by force. I'm sure that would have gone swimmingly.

Puerto Rico is also an American Territory and a president can't use military troops for enforcement on American soil.

[Sparko]

I was hoping for an actual cite, not the name of your girlfriend.

"Rachel" is most likely Rachel Maddow.

I assumed his claim was just another made up troll from FF. Is he claiming this is an actual assertion out there?

[Cow Poke]

"Rachel" is most likely Rachel Maddow.

I know - JimL and Star are under the serious delusion that she's a for-really journalist.

I assumed his claim was just another made up troll from FF. Is he claiming this is an actual assertion out there?

Would not surprise me in the least if Rachel actually said that.

[Sparko]

I know - JimL and Star are under the serious delusion that she's a for-really journalist.

I thought that species went extinct?

[Mountain Man]

I know - JimL and Star are under the serious delusion that she's a for-really journalist.

She doesn't give her opinion, she just explains the news.

[Cow Poke]

She doesn't give her opinion, she just explains the news.

And the liberals sit there lapping it up.