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Hypothetical. All guns dissapear. What happens?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think you're overthinking this, Roy. The post to which you responded was me questioning JimL's super nutty comment that "guns couldn't exist". That's dumber than possum poop.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHypothetical, CP.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI often do. But I'm accustomed to considering hypotheticals, and JimL's isn't all that extreme compared with e.g. 'what if gravity worked as an inverse cube' or 'what if the world was an infinitely long cylinder'.
hypothesis: a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
It's silly to discuss something inconceivable as a hypothetical, like "guns couldn't exist". Unpossible!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostReally? Do we really need to have this conversation? Have you ever heard of the phrase "bringing a knife to a gunfight"? Do you know what that means?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIt's the intended hypothetical of the OP, CP. Stop being jackass.
Here's the OP...
Originally posted by TheWall View PostIf all guns dissapeared right now what would happen? Or more accurately what would possibly happen?.
If you asked me it would be short lived.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostLethal is lethal. You can't be more dead than dead. Mountain man was saying that there are just as many deaths with knives and other means as there were under guns. So same number dead doesn't make guns "more lethal" - the knives and other methods killed just as many people as the guns did. "same" lethal.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostDon't you think it's a bit silly the measures you'll go to in order to wiggle out of the general observation that guns are more lethal than knives (or ladders for that matter)?
"Guns are more lethal!"
Really? Tell that to the 29 people who were killed in a knife attack in China in 2014. Would they somehow be more dead if the attackers had used guns?Last edited by Mountain Man; 03-05-2018, 01:26 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI count 11 from 1997-2016 and 15 from 1977-1996. Even including the Melbourne incident from 2017 and the Monash incident with only 2 deaths in the 20 years after doesn't result in as many murders after as before.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDon't you think it's a bit silly the measures you'll go to in order to wiggle out of the general observation that the lethality of any given weapon is entirely dependent on the circumstances in which it is used?
"Guns are more lethal!"
Really? Tell that to the 29 people who were killed in a knife in China in 2014. Would they somehow be more dead if the attackers had used guns?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostSo you're going to die on the hill that knives are just as lethal as guns then. Unbelievable.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, you added the idiotic "couldn't exist" phrase. And I can't stop being something I'm not.
Here's the OP...
NOTHING in there about "couldn't exist". The fact that he offers his opinion that "it would be short lived" proves you dead wrong.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHmm, sorry, you're right. But the hypothetical should have been "if they didn't and couldn't exist." The point of the hypothetical is what would the world be like without guns. If you could just manufacture more guns, then there's no point to the question.
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