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Originally posted by Adrift View PostThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt's an obvious exaggeration, but I think it points to an alarming reality if arming teachers was implemented on a national scale.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostIt is funny, but if teachers were that panicked and trigger-happy, I wouldn't want them in charge of my kids anyway.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm sure that putting guns in the hands of the staff will relax everyone in the building...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm sure that putting guns in the hands of the staff will relax everyone in the building..."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostAre you saying that the educators of most people's kids are untrustworthy?
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI think it is sad that we have a need for such things.
And I have to admit that I find the tedious, mantra of "don't take our guns!" ridiculous. If you say "we need to tighten up background checks" the response is "don't take our guns!" If we say, "maybe we should look at restricting access to assault rifles, it's "don't take our guns." If we say "we could use a national database of firearms to help track who owns what and how many," the response is "don't take our guns!" If we say, "maybe we should have a law that makes the gun owner responsible for what happens with their gun on an equal footing with the gun user," the response is "don't take our guns!" If we suggest, "perhaps we should dedicate some funding to researching gun violence so we can put together data that might actually point to possible solutions that would reduce the carnage," the response is "don't take our guns!"
Most of the time, the response doesn't even make sense, because what is being proposed has nothing to do with taking anyone's gun. But it's an effective mantra. The right and the "gun lovers" of our fair country have a simple message: "don't take our guns!" Backed by the money of the NRA/industry/lobby, it has been an effective tool to keep politicians in their place and preserve the status quo. Those of us who advocate for finding solutions and simple common sense practices (like, "if you're going to do background checks, perhaps it should be done across the board, and not just for 78% of the gun acquisitions?") have a tougher story, which makes it more complex, which historically has caved in front of "don't take our guns!"
But the tide is slowly turning. Each massacre moves the ship a bit. Each community impacted by the violence is shifting the tide. We're up to 64% of Americans. Before too long (I hope) the minority will lose power over this issue and something(s) will finally be done. As I see it, it's largely inevitable. The argument, "to stop gun violence, we need more guns" is so patently ridiculous, sooner or later, people will see it for what it is. It is unfortunate that it requires the death of so many to shift the tideMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYou were.
A very general statement as opposed to a very narrow one. I have REPEATEDLY made the case that it's not an "everybody gets a gun" type situation.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI'd have little issue saying that. Schools today sound pretty crazy. I'm not a hardcore homeschooling advocate, but after hearing lots of horror stories from friends, I don't blame families for doing it.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostGlad to hear it--I don't either. We're currently sending our oldest to a private Christian school. (the horror, I know. Almost as evil as homeschooling.)
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostGlad to hear it--I don't either. We're currently sending our oldest to a private Christian school. (the horror, I know. Almost as evil as homeschooling.)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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