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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI have to admit...after I posted that...I wondered if I had taken my humor too far.
My wife tells me I have a rendency to self-distruct in social situations...
(P.S. you seem to have emoji's down. What's the one with the character rubbing their chin and thinking?)
I am Punkinhead.
"I have missed you, Oh Grand High Priestess of the Order of the Stirring Pot"
~ Cow Poke aka CP aka Creacher aka ke7ejx's apprentice....
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYes And not only liberals - us moderates too. Indeed, 64% of Americans, including 83% of Democrats, 58% of Independents, and 49% of Republicans want better/more gun control, as of 2017. As those numbers continue to increase, eventually, the stranglehold the NRA and the gunb lobby have on our politicians will be overwhelmed.
And it cannot happen soon enough for me.
You're welcome...
Okay.
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostAny pocket knife could theoretically be used for self defense. Though I would prefer a 3 or 4 inch knife for that. I collect and use knives for everyday tasks.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah - I saw that. Sad actually, but not a surprise. When we have a major trauma like this one, there is usually (at least for a time) a significant response. I feel for the people at that school.
I would think that pistols would be more than sufficient to carry though.
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Originally posted by ke7ejx View PostTrust me, sir. If you go back a couple of pages, you'll see a prime example of my bring preterbed. You'll know without a doubt if you offend me.
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am right. That makes everyone else wrong.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postso you think that looking at the actual cause of the problem and how they missed preventing it is "Monday morning quarterbacking" but just going nuts and wanting to ban all guns is a proper response?
Okay.
I just have no patience for the blaming/shaming spirit of most of the monday morning quarterbacking. I also have no patience for "we can look at everything - but don't talk about the gun."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhy sad? It seems like an appropriate response and good solution. It protects the children without punishing the general populous (taking away their guns).
I would think that pistols would be more than sufficient to carry though.
And I have to admit that I find the tedious, mantra of "don't take our guns!" ridiculous. If you say "we need to tighten up background checks" the response is "don't take our guns!" If we say, "maybe we should look at restricting access to assault rifles, it's "don't take our guns." If we say "we could use a national database of firearms to help track who owns what and how many," the response is "don't take our guns!" If we say, "maybe we should have a law that makes the gun owner responsible for what happens with their gun on an equal footing with the gun user," the response is "don't take our guns!" If we suggest, "perhaps we should dedicate some funding to researching gun violence so we can put together data that might actually point to possible solutions that would reduce the carnage," the response is "don't take our guns!"
Most of the time, the response doesn't even make sense, because what is being proposed has nothing to do with taking anyone's gun. But it's an effective mantra. The right and the "gun lovers" of our fair country have a simple message: "don't take our guns!" Backed by the money of the NRA/industry/lobby, it has been an effective tool to keep politicians in their place and preserve the status quo. Those of us who advocate for finding solutions and simple common sense practices (like, "if you're going to do background checks, perhaps it should be done across the board, and not just for 78% of the gun acquisitions?") have a tougher story, which makes it more complex, which historically has caved in front of "don't take our guns!"
But the tide is slowly turning. Each massacre moves the ship a bit. Each community impacted by the violence is shifting the tide. We're up to 64% of Americans. Before too long (I hope) the minority will lose power over this issue and something(s) will finally be done. As I see it, it's largely inevitable. The argument, "to stop gun violence, we need more guns" is so patently ridiculous, sooner or later, people will see it for what it is. It is unfortunate that it requires the death of so many to shift the tideLast edited by carpedm9587; 02-22-2018, 01:06 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhy sad? It seems like an appropriate response and good solution. It protects the children without punishing the general populous (taking away their guns).
I would think that pistols would be more than sufficient to carry though.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostCome on, MM, the boy is only a child!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah - I saw that. Sad actually, but not a surprise. When we have a major trauma like this one, there is usually (at least for a time) a significant response. I feel for the people at that school.
1. And as Obamacare made crystal clear, the Republicans were in no position during that time to do anything to stop them
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostIf racist people tend to be right more often than left (not true, depends who they're racist against) then it's not prejudice to claim racism has something to do with being politically conservative.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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