House Intel votes to release FISA memo...

[Sparko]

so why don't the FBI just release the omitted facts with the memo?

[Sparko]

I know. It's all been very fast moving.



Apparently, the memo that found its way to Trump's desk is NOT the same memo approved by Congress.

That is easily fixed. all they have to do is release the untouched memo.

[shunyadragon]

democrat memo is undergoing same procedure GOP memo did. For now they're releasing it to the house so everybody can read it first, just like they did with the gop memo

This is very misleading. First there was no procedure for the GOP memo. It was compile by Nunes and his staff ONLY. Second neither memo has been, nor will be circulated in the House, before it is released. The GOP majority of the committee decided they will not release it until they review it. Based on this proviso they will not release it.

How can a three page memo complied only by Nunes staff without consultation with anyone else be the basis of their claim when the basis was over a hundred pages reviewed and veted by many legal sources?

[Mountain Man]

Wray reads memo, next day Wray fires McCabe. They need to release it already!!!

Yes, but Wray has "grave concerns" about releasing the memo to the public. I wonder why?

[Mountain Man]

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"We need to vote on the memo before we
can find out what's in it."

[JimL]

so why don't the FBI just release the omitted facts with the memo?

Because they are classified for a reason.

[Sparko]

Because they are classified for a reason.

Apparently not if it is being released. If the FBI has a problem with part of it, they can make a correction and show the truth.

[JimL]

This is very misleading. First there was no procedure for the GOP memo. It was compile by Nunes and his staff ONLY. Second neither memo has been, nor will be circulated in the House, before it is released. The GOP majority of the committee decided they will not release it until they review it. Based on this proviso they will not release it.

How can a three page memo complied only by Nunes staff without consultation with anyone else be the basis of their claim when the basis was over a hundred pages reviewed and veted by many legal sources?

It appears now to be the case that it wasn't prepared by the recused Nunes and his staff alone, it appears that the White House was involved in preparing this sham of a document which if true is just another nail in Trumps coffin for obstruction of Justice. Makes sense too, as Nunes, who btw is suppused to have recused himself, was working in conjunction with the White House in his first attempt to undermine the investigation, which is why he had to recuse himself in the first place. Makes one wonder what Nunes himself has to hide being that he was on the Trump transition team when all these shannanigans were taking place.

[JimL]

Apparently not if it is being released. If the FBI has a problem with part of it, they can make a correction and show the truth.

That's the point. It is classified and though released to Congress, it was not intended for Congress to release it to the public. Instead, Nunes and his staff, in conjunction with the White House, cherry picked the document, apparently in order to make Deputy Atty Gen. Rosenstein look bad so that the President could fire him thus clearing his way to get Mueller fired as well. It's what's aptly being called a slow rolling saturday night massacre. Trump is attempting to knock off one by one everyone that stands in the way of his firing Mueller.

[Sparko]

That's the point. It is classified and though released to Congress, it was not intended for Congress to release it to the public. Instead, Nunes and his staff, in conjunction with the White House, cherry picked the document, apparently in order to make Deputy Atty Gen. Rosenstein look bad so that the President could fire him thus clearing his way to get Mueller fired as well. It's what's aptly being called a slow rolling saturday night massacre. Trump is attempting to knock off one by one everyone that stands in the way of his firing Mueller.

if Congress releases it then it is no longer classified.

Jimmy, your utter bias on these types of matters is completely ridiculous. Anything potentially helping Trump is automatically fake and anything potentially harming Trump is completely genuine, even before you have seen a thing. You probably should not get a job as a fortune teller or a psychic. You suck at it.

[JimL]

if Congress releases it then it is no longer classified.

Sparko, no, it's no longer classified if the president decides to release it, not if Congress decides. And Trump was caught on a hot mic yesterday telling a rep. congressman, don't worry, I'm going to release it, 100% i'm going to release it, even though he has supposedly not even seen it yet. But we know he has seen it don't we, not only seen it but help to draft it.

Jimmy, your utter bias on these types of matters is completely ridiculous. Anything potentially helping Trump is automatically fake and anything potentially harming Trump is completely genuine, even before you have seen a thing. You probably should not get a job as a fortune teller or a psychic. You suck at it.

I am of course biased against Trump, just as you are biased for him, the difference is that the facts are on my side. You don't actively try to undermine your own justice dept. firing everyone in sight unless you know you are guilty. Wake up!

[Sparko]

Sparko, no, it's no longer classified if the president decides to release it, not if Congress decides. And Trump was caught on a hot mic yesterday telling a rep. congressman, don't worry, I'm going to release it, 100% i'm going to release it, even though he has supposedly not even seen it yet. But we know he has seen it don't we, not only seen it but help to draft it.

I am of course biased against Trump, just as you are biased for him, the difference is that the facts are on my side. You don't actively try to undermine your own justice dept. firing everyone in sight unless you know you are guilty. Wake up!

So it is not classified and your initial argument is invalid.

And at least I wait to hear or see the evidence before making a judgment. So far I have not seen ANY evidence that Trump was colluding with the Russians to fix the election, or that he is a dictator or any of the other things you believe about him. When I see the evidence then I will decide. You on the other hand have already made up your mind without a shred of evidence.

[shunyadragon]

Yes, but Wray has "grave concerns" about releasing the memo to the public. I wonder why?

The release of the memo by the President gives an element of approval and accuracy. All those responsible in the FBI and Justice Department specifically have objected to memo for reasons of accuracy and possibly revealing secrecy issues concerning the investigation methods of the FBI and Justice Department.

[Sparko]

The release of the memo by the President gives an element of approval and accuracy. All those responsible in the FBI and Justice Department specifically have objected to memo for reasons of accuracy and possibly revealing secrecy issues concerning the investigation methods of the FBI and Justice Department.

you mean methods like forming a conclusion before the evidence is even in and being completely biased?

[demi-conservative]

the Dems are so upset...

Also scared!!!

Release it already!