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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYet again you are quick to hand wave things you don't like as "yet another right-wing meme" when even a cursory examination shows it isn't I just posted this (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post514904) in response to jimmy claiming that Trump is no different than Hitler because he "disparaged the so called MSM." It contains mention (with sources) of Obama siccing the IRS after a local reporter in St. Louis along with several other things that garnered a collective yawn from the left (with a very few exceptions).
This one goes on my list of "right-wing memes" that have no substance.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
This makes Watergate look like a petty crime.Last edited by carpedm9587; 02-03-2018, 02:00 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostComments inserted...
If this list from Brietbart does not demonstrate to you that they are indeed an "extreme right" outlet with "mixed" reputation for factual reporting, then I have to assume that facts and accuracy don't matter to you as much as partisan politics.
For instance, you push the liberal talking point that parts of the dossier have been verified without bothering to mention that the only parts that have been verified are inconsequential details that Steele sourced from a local newspaper and have nothing at all to do with Trump. The rest of it appears to pure fiction, and the fact that McCabe is on record saying that they couldn't have gotten their warrants without the dossier is damning.
Until the Democrats can mount a credible response, that is if they can, the memo is a smoking bazooka that blows a big hole in their entire Russian conspiracy theory. And now we know the Democrats fought like cornered rats to block its release.
And seriously, Media Bias Fact Check?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSorry, but your attempt at a rebuttal is laughable. We have the facts as stated in the memo. That's what Breitbart is CORRECTLY reporting, and do far, nobody has presented a credible rebuttal. Case in point, your objections are based on speculation, just-so stories, claims for which there is no evidence, and other deceptions.
For instance, you push the liberal talking point that parts of the dossier have been verified without bothering to mention that the only parts that have been verified are inconsequential details that Steele sourced from a local newspaper and have nothing at all to do with Trump. The rest of it appears to pure fiction, and the fact that McCabe is on record saying that they couldn't have gotten their warrants without the dossier is damning.
Until the Democrats can mount a credible response, that is if they can, the memo is a smoking bazooka that blows a big hole in their entire Russian conspiracy theory. And now we know the Democrats fought like cornered rats to block its release.
And seriously, Media Bias Fact Check?
As for your other observations, I invite you to read a bit more broadly than Brietbart, Fox, and the Drudge Report. When you only read within your "bubble," the only views you hold will be controlled by those who control the bubble.Last edited by carpedm9587; 02-03-2018, 03:40 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThere is not a single site that assesses media bias that I have found that classifies Brietbart as anything other than "far right" and "unreliable'...
You gotta be more diligent in vetting this stuff, dude.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostHe was referred for an indictment by Grassley and Graham.
It should be remembered that Steele is a foreign national.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah - I noticed that about Fox
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey're guilty too. But considering that "conservative media" is so tiny when compared to the liberal MSM...
But the left does dominate late night! Somehow, the right still haven't learned how to laugh without grimacingLast edited by carpedm9587; 02-03-2018, 09:36 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou're talking about the same website that calls Politico and The Washington Post "center left" and rates their accuracy as "high", and it rates Snopes as "least biased". That in and of itself proves that Media Bias Fact Check is a joke.
You gotta be more diligent in vetting this stuff, dude.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOK, I'm finished looking into the St. Louis claim, and it's a nothing burger. The journalist in question did a "hard hitting" interview with Obama, and then claimed afterwards, on his facebook page, that the IRS had been "set on him." He acknowledged he could not prove his claim, later it came out that the IRS had been after him for back taxes of $85K BEFORE the interview, which he acknowledged, he took down the facebook claim, and he was fired for his social media posts because the station felt he had compromise his journalistic integrity. The right, however, never let it go. It continued to be reported by Fox, The Blaze, Brietbart, Daily Liberator, Drudge Report, and many other far-right news outlets.
This one goes on my list of "right-wing memes" that have no substance.
Further, the fact that he publicized it and refused to retract it cost him his job is another strong reason to believe he was telling the truth. Very few folks are willing to get fired from a well paying job over a false claim that will get him in even deeper trouble with the IRS (now he had no source of income to continue any payments to the IRS if they decided to go back to their previous arrangement.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostActually, not. I suggest you spend some time on the two sites I linked. Sinclair Broadcast Group now has a dominant hold of local television affiliates. Fox has grown to a significant market share, dominating most other cable news programs and triggering CNN and MSNCB to replicate their business model (which is sad, actually). Add to that Brietbart, The Blaze, and all of the rest of the "soft" and "hard" right outlets, and a chief executive on the warpath for any media outlet that does not report as he wants them to, I think the day of complaining that the right is "dominated" by media is pretty much behind us. It's an old mantra, but no longer accurate.
But the left does dominate late night! Somehow, the right still haven't learned how to laugh without grimacing
It is the same, if not more so, with newspapers and magazines.
For every conservative outlet you list you can list 5 to 10 liberal ones.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostComments inserted...
If this list from Brietbart does not demonstrate to you that they are indeed an "extreme right" outlet with "mixed" reputation for factual reporting, then I have to assume that facts and accuracy don't matter to you as much as partisan politics.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThe one where Obama took responsibility, and ordered an investigation.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTheleftmega-corporations control the network news (ABC, CBS, NBC)
The fartherest left they ever go is Clintonite 3rd-way centrist neoliberalism (which is equivalent to the major right-wing party here). They regularly make a habit of getting rid of any presenters who turn out to be serious progressives or who are anti-war, and they are usually openly hostile to anyone who's on the actual left (Sanders, Greens, etc)."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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