Should Trump Resign Over "Hellhole" Comment?

[Starlight]

I think a lot of that sort of weirdness had to do with the fact that they were operating under their crazy Senate rules. In particular, I think the "Byrd Rule" was a factor. They were working under the "Budget Reconciliation" process, rather than "normal" rules, so there was no need for a filibuster-proof super-majority, but the consequence was that they had to finagle, defer, and delay.

Also, the rules judge a bill over the effect it will have in a 10-year timeframe, so they made sure to have the worst effects of their bill kick in after 10 years.

[Darth Executor]

P.S. IMO, most people with any decency loath Mr. Trump. His bullying tactics, his juvenile name calling, his increasingly obvious racist views, his need for adulation, his megalomania (he gave us the privilege of voting for him?), and all of the rest that makes up this man makes him a fairly loathsome individual. I support some of his policies, but I reject the man completely as unsuited to his office.

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[JimL]

Because I do not think our country is best served by a single party having the majority of the power.

Yeah, I'm becoming less and less content with the two tribe system myself, but I also believe that one of the two is far more corrupt in their serving the interests of the wealthy and corporations rather than the best interests of the Country as a whole. That would be the republican party of course. So, so long as we do have a two party system, for the good of the country, we need the democrat party to be the majority party

Democrcy thrives on debate and compromise. It withers when power skews too badly. The pendulum of powerhas been swining more and more eratically for the past two decades. I am hoping it comes to rest somehwere near the center.

Yep, no longer sure that a two party system is the best way to accomplish that though.

[JimL]

Yeah, I mentioned this all the way back in post #78.

Yeah right, Sen Durbin just made it up whole cloth right. None of them denied it at first, Sen Graham basically even admitted to it by saying he told the President off right then and there. Two of them initially said they didn't know, that they didn't hear it, which you know is BS. If Trump said it then obviously it's something you're going to know whether he said it or not. Sheesh, face facts for a change will ya. Senators don't just make stuff up like that with 6 other Senators present.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah right, Sen Durbin just made it up whole cloth right. None of them denied it at first, Sen Graham basically even admitted to it by saying he told the President off right then and there. Two of them initially said they didn't know, that they didn't hear it, which you know is BS. If Trump said it then obviously it's something you're going to know whether he said it or not. Sheesh, face facts for a change will ya. Senators don't just make stuff up like that with 6 other Senators present.

Senator Tom Cotton, who was also at the meeting, said he never heard those words. Naturally, though, since Durbin's comments are seen as damaging to Trump, Cotton's clearly lying and Durbin is telling the truth.

[Starlight]

Senator Tom Cotton, who was also at the meeting, said he never heard those words. Naturally, though, since Durbin's comments are seen as damaging to Trump, Cotton's clearly lying and Durbin is telling the truth.

Tom Cotton is one of the biggest treasonous liars in US politics. Remember that letter he sent to Iran saying that the US govt can't be trusted? The guy should be in prison.

[JimL]

Senator Tom Cotton, who was also at the meeting, said he never heard those words. Naturally, though, since Durbin's comments are seen as damaging to Trump, Cotton's clearly lying and Durbin is telling the truth.

Obviously so. Tom Cotton and Perdue are obviously lying. Graham basically admitted to it and Durbin isn't just going to make crap like that up in the midst of 6 republican witnesses. Ok Trump supporter!

[Cow Poke]

Obviously so. Tom Cotton and Perdue are obviously lying. Graham basically admitted to it and Durbin isn't just going to make crap like that up in the midst of 6 republican witnesses. Ok Trump supporter!

Do you have scars from your alien abduction, Jim?

[JimL]

Do you have scars from your alien abduction, Jim?

So, you believe in alien abduction as well, eh CP. Wow, I didn't quite know the extent of your illness. Hope you get better.

[KingsGambit]

Tom Cotton is one of the biggest treasonous liars in US politics. Remember that letter he sent to Iran saying that the US govt can't be trusted? The guy should be in prison.

I'm somewhat confused about your stance. He was betraying an administration led by somebody that you think should be in prison for war crimes. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are really outraged by Cotton's actions.

[shunyadragon]

Black Lives Matters is his base?

The white industrial elite like the Coke brothers, white evangelicals, and white extremists.

[shunyadragon]

It's a hoot watching Dick Durbin defending the allegation that Trump said the sh******* word. He looks like a little kid on the playground tattling to the teacher that another kid said 'poop'.

It's TRUMP, for cryin' out loud. We're shocked that he says bad words?

It is not the words that is the problem it is the context the words were used. The racist context in reference to immigration.

[Cow Poke]

The white industrial elite like the Coke brothers, white evangelicals, and white extremists.

I'm thinking you mean the Koch brothers.

[Cow Poke]

It is not the words that is the problem it is the context the words were used. The racist context in reference to immigration.

If, indeed, he said what is being reported. I wasn't there, and I doubt you were either. It even got exaggerated to "chain migration" being an insult to African-Americans who "migrated here in chains".

So much drama in all this, and you appear to be falling for all of it.

[Tassman]

If, indeed, he said what is being reported. I wasn't there, and I doubt you were either. It even got exaggerated to "chain migration" being an insult to African-Americans who "migrated here in chains".

It's all in keeping with what we know of Donald J Trump. He even kicked off his presidential campaign with a speech in which he labelled immigrants from Mexico "rapists" and criminals.

So much drama in all this, and you appear to be falling for all of it.

More to the point, why are you trying to exonerate this lying moral reprobate? I guess you must be one of the 4 in 5 white Evangelicals who voted for him.