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  • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    So - when does any god other than the Christian god get assigned the proper noun? - apart from when it is the first word in a sentence, that is.
    I don't know, but knowing the beliefs of the Founding Fathers, there's no reasonable argument to be made that the Declaration of Independence is referring to anybody but the Christian God.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Agreed.
      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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      Scripture before Tradition:
      but that won't prevent others from
      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        I don't know, but knowing the beliefs of the Founding Fathers, there's no reasonable argument to be made that the Declaration of Independence is referring to anybody but the Christian God.
        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossex...an-document-2/

        This would explain why there is no reference to God or Jesus in the Constitution itself.

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        • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
          So - when does any god other than the Christian god get assigned the proper noun? - apart from when it is the first word in a sentence, that is.
          Whenever a Jew or Muslim mentions their deity when writing in English.
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          • Originally posted by Roy View Post
            Whenever a Jew or Muslim mentions their deity when writing in English.
            In most cases of English usage Jews would use "G-d*", and Muslims would use "Allah".

            *Or perhaps Adonai.

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            • Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
              http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossex...an-document-2/

              This would explain why there is no reference to God or Jesus in the Constitution itself.
              A very selective reading.

              Source: The Federalist Papers

              http://thefederalistpapers.org/curre...of-natures-god

              © Copyright Original Source


              And the role of the Creator is, in fact, fundamental to the notion of self-governance based on the principle that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Without these unalienable rights, the only rule is "survival of the fittest", and there's no basis on which to create a self-governed society.

              But I do like how the Patheos article skips right over the first two sentences of the Declaration of Independence which lay the foundation for everything that follows, and then the author deceptively leaves off the first five-words from part he does quote. Here's how the third sentence of the Declaration of Independence starts, with the words the Patheos author "forgot" to include underlined: "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." In other words, if we have no God given rights then there's nothing for us to secure through the institution of government.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                A very selective reading.

                Source: The Federalist Papers

                http://thefederalistpapers.org/curre...of-natures-god

                © Copyright Original Source


                And the role of the Creator is, in fact, fundamental to the notion of self-governance based on the principle that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Without these unalienable rights, the only rule is "survival of the fittest", and there's no basis on which to create a self-governed society.

                But I do like how the Patheos article skips right over the first two sentences of the Declaration of Independence which lay the foundation for everything that follows, and then the author deceptively leaves off the first five-words from part he does quote. Here's how the third sentence of the Declaration of Independence starts, with the words the Patheos author "forgot" to include underlined: "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." In other words, if we have no God given rights then there's nothing for us to secure through the institution of government.
                But but but... he wants SO BADLY to believe otherwise.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                  In most cases of English usage Jews would use "G-d*", and Muslims would use "Allah".

                  *Or perhaps Adonai.
                  My Stone Tanakh uses Hashem.
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