Harvey Weinstein: Another Good Liberal...

[Adrift]

I try to pay as little attention to entertainment news as possible. I couldn't care less about who won what for what show, or who wore what, or who's going out with whom.....

I don't blame you. As much as I love film, I'm far more interested in the craft than the creators. But I just happened to see both on Reddit's front page recently.

[Tassman]

I don't have to do an "interpretation" of the facts - I just provide the actual quotes and documented material from the gay / lesbian sites.

What you provide are out of context quotes to promote an anti LGBT agenda by insinuating that homosexuals are closely associated with pedophiles...or "buddies" to use your term. This is clearly the point of the whole exercise.

[Cow Poke]

What you provide are out of context quotes

By providing the link, the context is there for all to see.

to promote an anti LGBT agenda by insinuating that homosexuals are closely associated with pedophiles...or "buddies" to use your term.

That's your nutty assessment - what I provide was proof that NAMBLA was with ILGA from the beginning, and it was not until it was politically expedient for ILGA to dump NAMBLA that the association was terminated. Those are the facts.

This is clearly the point of the whole exercise.

Nope. The point was to show the truth. Which I have done, and will continue to do. The fact that it appears to go against your own agenda is not my fault.

[Tassman]

Nope. The point was to show the truth. Which I have done, and will continue to do. The fact that it appears to go against your own agenda is not my fault.

[Cow Poke]

It is not "my" truth, Tassman. And I have listed the facts numerous times - you just wish to ignore most of them, or totally get them absolutely backwards. And, again, it's not surprising at all that you are unfamiliar with truth.

This is the same old false accusation you make when you get your clock cleaned. Citing facts from gay/lesbian websites and sources is not innuendo.

[Tassman]

It is not "my" truth, Tassman. And I have listed the facts numerous times - you just wish to ignore most of them, or totally get them absolutely backwards. And, again, it's not surprising at all that you are unfamiliar with truth.



This is the same old false accusation you make when you get your clock cleaned. Citing facts from gay/lesbian websites and sources is not innuendo.

NOnothttp://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

[rogue06]

NOnothttp://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

That has nothing to do with what myself or several others have been doing but certainly does explain why you are so eager to deny the close relationship between the early gay rights groups and NAMBLA.

[Tassman]

That has nothing to do with what myself or several others have been doing but certainly does explain why you are so eager to deny the close relationship between the early gay rights groups and NAMBLA.

Oh really! What have you been doing...and more to the point, why?

[Cow Poke]

Oh really! What have you been doing...and more to the point, why?

What you have been doing, Tassman, is repeatedly getting important facts completely wrong, putting on little drama queen routines, falsely accusing others (like you falsely accused one of your own as being a NAMBLA defender ), and jumping to wild unfounded conclusions.

This seems to be the core of who you are.

[Cow Poke]

This is an outright lie. I ask, AGAIN, to show where I have done any such thing. Further, when I produce facts, I link to the source where the context is fully available, most usually from gay/lesbian sites.

And you accuse others of dishonesty?

Are you assuming that 'people' are just as stupid as you implied the gays and lesbians were because they didn't know NAMBLA was a group of pedophiles? And I'm so tired your goofy accusations of me being disingenuous, when this only comes from your dark sordid petty imagination.

Absolutely, I deny it. You're just like the sorry race-baiters who can't win an argument, so they resort to screaming "racist!" Only, in your case, everybody who doesn't agree with you is a homophobe.

What possible other reason do you have if not to suggest there is a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia?

Actually, I'm proving the undeniable (to a reasonably intelligent person) link between ILGA and NAMBLA.

But do feel free to continue your frantic little drama queen false accusations and fantasies. It's still kinda interesting to watch how your twisted little mind works.

[Tassman]

This is an outright lie. I ask, AGAIN, to show where I have done any such thing. Further, when I produce facts, I link to the source where the context is fully available, most usually from gay/lesbian sites.

Actually, I'm proving the undeniable (to a reasonably intelligent person) link between ILGA and NAMBLA.

No. What you are doing is making snide innuendos that homosexuality and pedophilia share similar characteristics and are therefore equally bad. This is an incorrect fact. They are not connected in this sense at all. In fact ILGA takes an active role in rebutting the idea that pedophilia and homosexuality are linked and this is supported by research.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html

[Cow Poke]

Three pedophile groups were among the 400+ initial members of ILGA. This is not being denied.

For a DECADE.

Why do you do that dopey putting quotation marks on the word facts? That's just dumb. A fact is either a fact or it's not. That you wish they didn't exist is just ignorance on your part.

No. What you are doing is making snide innuendos that homosexuality and pedophilia share similar characteristics and are therefore equally bad.

Again, that's an outright lie. I'm presenting the record, clear and simple, that ILGA allowed NAMBLA to be a partner with them for 10 years, only voting to expel them when it was politically expedient for them to do so. Deal with the facts, Jack.

This is an incorrect fact.

An "incorrect fact"? Isn't that an oxymoron?

They are not connected in this sense at all.

Again, your foolish dark imagination is at play here, Tassman -- how bout sticking with what I actually said instead of your drama queen version of it?

[Tassman]

For a DECADE.

Three pedophile groups were among the 400+ initial members of ILGA...for a decade. They were expelled over 2 DECADES ago. Why you feel this warrants addressing?

Why do you do that dopey putting quotation marks on the word facts? That's just dumb. A fact is either a fact or it's not. That you wish they didn't exist is just ignorance on your part.

Again, that's an outright lie. I'm presenting the record, clear and simple, that ILGA allowed NAMBLA to be a partner with them for 10 years, only voting to expel them when it was politically expedient for them to do so. Deal with the facts, Jack.

You are NOT presenting the record, You have ignored that the three pedophile groups, which joined ILGA, did so when it was a loose network with no rules for admission, as stated by the secretary general...such groups have not been eligible for membership for 24 years.

You have ignored that the reputable research shows homosexuals are NOT pedophiles and consequently have different goals, which is why they were ultimately expelled from ILGA. You prefer to dishonestly insinuate that paedophiles and homosexual have common interests. They do not.

Again, your foolish dark imagination is at play here, Tassman -- how bout sticking with what I actually said instead of your drama queen version of it?

What you was make snide innuendos that homosexuality and pedophilia share similar characteristics and are therefore equally bad. Deny it.

[Starlight]

What you was make snide innuendos that homosexuality and pedophilia share similar characteristics and are therefore equally bad. Deny it.

He's probably really panicky about the number of priests and pastors who have been revealed to be pedophiles over the past couple of decades. I see Pastor Andy Savage is in the headlines this week for it. CP, as a pastor, knows he belongs to a highly suspect group and so is eager to find some minority group he can blame instead.

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[Tassman]

He's probably really panicky about the number of priests and pastors who have been revealed to be pedophiles over the past couple of decades. I see Pastor Andy Savage is in the headlines this week for it. CP, as a pastor, knows he belongs to a highly suspect group and so is eager to find some minority group he can blame instead.

Of course. Priests and pastors have access to young people. "These 24 Pastors Were All Arrested for Sex Crimes against Children and the Disabled in One Month!"

http://www.bishop-accountability.org...yi_These24.htm

But my personal favourite hypocrite pastor is not a pedophile but a common garden variety homosexual, namely Ted Haggard. At the same time as he was preaching against the evils of drugs and homosexuality he was abusing methamphetamines and regularly availing himself of the services of Denver's male prostitutes.
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