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  • #76
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Just to be clear, I was not referring to sporting events. Chanting something to support your team at sporting events is standard practice worldwide. It's the unusually patriotic/nationalistic american behaviors outside of sporting events that people find weird.
    oh really? You realize that this entire thread is about students chanting USA at sporting events, right?

    Do you think Americans just walk around the town chanting USA! for no reason?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Adrift View Post
      This is all mostly just stereotyping. America isn't really like this everywhere. It seems like when a lot of Europeans imagine America, they're mostly imagining places like Texas, or what you see in movies and TV shows which often take place in LA (or, more commonly now, Vancouver and Toronto). I imagine that most Danes would feel relatively comfortable in the upper corners of America where people act and think more European (at least in my experience). Places like Maine, Vermont, Upper NY, and New Hampshire on the East Coast, and Northern California, Washington, and Oregon on the West. Even the local politics seem more Euro-centric in those places.




      Yeah, the politics here are terrible. Everything is super polarizing. That's why I find myself pretty disinterested in them. In fact, I think you'd be surprised how many people in the US just want to tune politics out altogether. It just makes people depressed and anxious, and we don't have enough options, so everyone will root for their side even if they don't like half the things that side does.






      I hear ya. I'm not a big American flag waving type guy myself, and don't care about anthems, and the whole rah-rah-rah, Go USA stuff. I think it's often silly, and some people tend to make an idol out of all of it, but I generally understand the reason people are proud of these sorts of things. As much as I don't buy into all of that jingoistic type Americana stuff, videos like this one where a Canadian audience finished the American anthem bring a lump to my throat.



      When I lived in Germany, I thought it was a bit sad how disheartened people seemed when it came to national pride. The constant guilt hanging over the heads of even young people for two world wars, and the Nazi legacy made it so that the concept of pride and patriotism is completely verbotten.
      Bavarians are very proud and you see the bavarian flag everywhere, even on flag poles outside of homes, table coths, t-shirts, oktoberfest, and beer glasses.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
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        The Nazis essentially made Muslims something like "honorary Aryans" as well.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #79
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          The Nazis essentially made Muslims something like "honorary Aryans" as well.
          Yes, I think they even let them join the SS - reserved for Aryans...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            oh really? You realize that this entire thread is about students chanting USA at sporting events, right?

            Do you think Americans just walk around the town chanting USA! for no reason?
            Knowing what Starlight thinks about America...

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Adrift View Post
              What gets me, though, is Starlight's constant cocksure attitude about so many things he's completely and hopelessly ignorant about. The guy lives in a bubble.
              Classic Dunning-Kruger.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                Good idea to, you know, read the OP next time you decide to chime in with your two cents on it.
                I'm reminded of the saying, "When some people give their 2-cents worth, they're overcharging."
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  oh really? You realize that this entire thread is about students chanting USA at sporting events, right?

                  Do you think Americans just walk around the town chanting USA! for no reason?
                  It's like someone watching "Duck Dynasty" and thinking it's representative of the average US citizen.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Adrift
                    This is all mostly just stereotyping.
                    That was the point. Framing the kind of stereotype a European has in their mind of a US citizen. I know you guys are far more diverse.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      It's like someone watching "Duck Dynasty" and thinking it's representative of the average US citizen.
                      It doesn't?
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        oh really? You realize that this entire thread is about students chanting USA at sporting events, right?
                        Well, self-evidently the entire thread wasn't about that, since my sections of it weren't. Furthermore, again, chanting USA at international sporting events is normal and fine. But the OP was about chanting USA at local sporting events which is an insane thing to do and equivalent to as you put it "walk[ing] around the town chanting USA! for no reason".

                        Do you think Americans just walk around the town chanting USA! for no reason?
                        I've seen plenty of video footage of Americans chanting USA at times and places that weren't sporting events. I found it inappropriate, bizarre, and felt embarrassed for them.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Originally posted by Adrift
                          What gets me, though, is Starlight's constant cocksure attitude about so many things he's completely and hopelessly ignorant about. The guy lives in a bubble.
                          Classic Dunning-Kruger.
                          Perfect self-descriptions of two posters in a single post. Well done.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            Well, self-evidently the entire thread wasn't about that, since my sections of it weren't.
                            You are too much.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              It's like someone watching "Duck Dynasty" and thinking it's representative of the average US citizen.
                              Wait. You mean it isn't?

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Well, self-evidently the entire thread wasn't about that, since my sections of it weren't.
                                Words. Fail. To. Describe.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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