Debunked: Socialism has never worked

[Teallaura]

I think you're misinterpreting her point. When you stated "I have a viewpoint concerning theistic beliefs. I'm happy to defend it. It's not a belief in the sense that most religions are beliefs" it basically comes off sounding like you're avoiding, or shunning the idea that your atheism itself is a belief. That's what I understood her to be responding to. If that's not what you meant, then you may be talking past one another.

That was it. I caught on later that he was making the finer distinction.

[Tassman]

what are you even talking about?

If you don't believe me then it is up to me to convince you if I want to change your mind. If I don't believe you then it is up to you to convince me if you want to change my mind.

[Mountain Man]

Which often amounts to you objecting to common sense morality since you associate that with Christianity.

[Tassman]

Which often amounts to you objecting to common sense morality since you associate that with Christianity.

Religious "common sense morality" equates to a morality based upon alleged demands from a non-existent deity, which is anything but "common sense",

[Roy]

Um, no, not really - I answered you incorrectly. I read it correctly then answered as if you were someone else arguing the 'we have no beliefs' thing. I caught the distinction on the way home long after I'd posted.

No worries!

Also, for admitting error - it's all too rare around here.

[Sparko]

And you make it sound as if we don't defend our opinions. Seriously Sparko are you deaf and dumb. For one thing, atheism is simply a disbelief in the unfounded assertion by others for the existence of god. Atheism says nothing more than that, it doesn't tell you anything about what it is that the atheist may or may not believe is true about reality. But for you to say that what atheists believe to the contrary, which is a defense of their position, never comes up in the discussion is simply ridiculous. Atheists aren't obligated to defend their position unless you are attacking or questioning said position, but what we believe comes up all the time. Perhaps you're just not very good at taking apart the atheists beliefs.

Go back to sleep JimL, you clearly are not following the conversation.

[Mountain Man]

Religious "common sense morality" equates to a morality based upon alleged demands from a non-existent deity, which is anything but "common sense",

Like I was saying...

[Joel]

That was it. I caught on later that he was making the finer distinction.

What was the finer distinction? I'm still not understanding what is the difference in kinds of belief here.

[Teallaura]

No worries!

Also, for admitting error - it's all too rare around here.