Abrams calls for removal of Confederate faces off Stone Mountain

[Roy]

He said that the left STARTED the throwing of objects. That strongly implies that both sides subsequently engaged in doing so. If he'd wanted to blame ONLY the left, he would have said that ONLY the left threw objects.

He did say that ONLY the left threw objects: "Look at my video in this thread and find others on line, the bricks and bottles are only going one way."

If all you can do is highlight 'the left started it' and ignore the subsequent 'it all came from the left', I'm done here.

[Roy]

The point is that it is dishonest to say that only the KKK and crew are guilty.

Then if I say that you may characterise me as dishonest.

There are two lawless groups involved here, both are completely in the wrong. When someone says such a thing it is considered to be support for the KKK and crew.

Not by me.

I see both as equally guilty and dishonest accusations will not change my view.

If it's dishonest to blame only the KKK and crew because both sides are equally guilty, it's just as dishonest to blame only the BLM and crew - but you have not and will not criticise those who place most or all of the blame on the left.

[Roy]

Then you have no room to complain about my "scenario"

Sure I do. It contradicts the eyewitness accounts I have read, and you have not provided any support for it.

I don't need to find video evidence refuting you if you haven't provided any evidence yourself.

[Sparko]

There should be no real difficulty in condemning Nazis, white supremacists and the Ku Klux Klan...as people from all sides, nationally and internationally have recognised. There is no moral equivalency between these despicable people and those who oppose them. Only Trump and his morally challenged core supporters seem to think there is. Sad!

You are right there is no difficulty in condemning Nazis, White supremacists and the KKK. We do condemn them. But that doesn't mean we can't condemn other evil groups too. Just because two evil groups oppose each other doesn't mean we can't condemn both. It is not mutually exclusive. You can hated extreme right and extreme left terrorists. Yet again Tassy uses a logical fallacy to make his argument. The False Dilemma.

[Sparko]

He did say that ONLY the left threw objects: "Look at my video in this thread and find others on line, the bricks and bottles are only going one way."

If all you can do is highlight 'the left started it' and ignore the subsequent 'it all came from the left', I'm done here.

whew. about time. thanks.

[Sparko]

Sure I do. It contradicts the eyewitness accounts I have read, and you have not provided any support for it.

I don't need to find video evidence refuting you if you haven't provided any evidence yourself.

I did provide evidence and then asked you for anything to counter it and you said "I've already spent far too long trawling through eyewitness accounts."

If you can't bother then you can't complain.

Besides didn't you say you were done here?

[Jedidiah]

Then if I say that you may characterise me as dishonest.Not by me. If it's dishonest to blame only the KKK and crew because both sides are equally guilty, it's just as dishonest to blame only the BLM and crew - but you have not and will not criticise those who place most or all of the blame on the left.

If there is anyone who blames only the left for that violence, I call them dishonest as well. To blame only one side is what is dishonest. I am not aware of anyone who has tried to claim that the KKK and crew are innocent. Indeed they are widely condemned right here on TWeb by conservatives.

[rogue06]

There should be no real difficulty in condemning Nazis, white supremacists and the Ku Klux Klan...as people from all sides, nationally and internationally have recognised. There is no moral equivalency between these despicable people and those who oppose them. Only Trump and his morally challenged core supporters seem to think there is. Sad!

In your world violence from those on the left is perfectly acceptable and praiseworthy. Not just sad but sick as well.

[Bill the Cat]

I'd love to know what the lefties here think of this:

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/c...34c01bc2b.html

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[One Bad Pig]

He did say that ONLY the left threw objects: "Look at my video in this thread and find others on line, the bricks and bottles are only going one way."

If all you can do is highlight 'the left started it' and ignore the subsequent 'it all came from the left', I'm done here.

Fine. You've made it abundantly clear you're only going to see what you want to see.

[Roy]

I did provide evidence...

You didn't provide any evidence for your hypothetical scenario, only for another event at a different place and time.

...and then asked you for anything to counter it and you said "I've already spent far too long trawling through eyewitness accounts."

If you can't bother then you can't complain.

It's not that I can't be bothered. I wish I had infinite time for research, but sometimes earning a living is necessary.

[Sparko]

You didn't provide any evidence for your hypothetical scenario, only for another event at a different place and time. It's not that I can't be bothered. I wish I had infinite time for research, but sometimes earning a living is necessary.

I am with OBP on this. You are on your own little world and can't see any other view and will find some way to dismiss anything that could show you wrong. Whether you nitpick some odd point to death dismissing out of hand anything that shows you are out of context or just say you don't have the time to look at anything that shows you wrong, it all ends up being you living in your own little bubble.

[Mountain Man]

You are right there is no difficulty in condemning Nazis, White supremacists and the KKK. We do condemn them. But that doesn't mean we can't condemn other evil groups too. Just because two evil groups oppose each other doesn't mean we can't condemn both. It is not mutually exclusive. You can hated extreme right and extreme left terrorists. Yet again Tassy uses a logical fallacy to make his argument. The False Dilemma.

In liberal-world, if you condemn white supremacists then you can only condemn white supremacists; otherwise you're a white supremacist.

No, it doesn't make any sense.

[Sparko]

In liberal-world, if you condemn white supremacists then you can only condemn white supremacists; otherwise you're a white supremacist.

No, it doesn't make any sense.

basically the same thing as WW2. You had commies and nazis, both hating each other. We hated them both. Not a problem. Just because we fought Hitler doesn't mean we had to like Stalin. They were both evil murdering maniacs

[Charles]

no, that means I don't believe you went and read the thread in question in context.

As I have already explained you presented the situation better than seer did. Your presentation is more balanced than his was. But that does not help him much though you seem to think so.