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  • #46
    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    How do you come to that conclusion?
    It's his hobby-horse / pet conspiracy theory. He wears critical pedagogy tinted glasses and thus sees it everywhere he looks.

    Psychiatrists would wonder why.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      It's his hobby-horse / pet conspiracy theory. He wears critical pedagogy tinted glasses and thus sees it everywhere he looks.

      Psychiatrists would wonder why.
      I have to admit that I was not familiar with the term. Looking it up, I found: "Critical pedagogy is an educational philosophy that encourages students to think critically and question the information they receive. It's based on critical theory and challenges traditional educational systems for empowerment and social justice. Critical pedagogy encourages students to explore their surroundings and the status quo, and examine power structures, patterns of inequality, and oppressive acts. For example, instead of just accepting the information in a textbook, students should be encouraged to conduct their own research and read alternative narratives."

      I'm trying to find something to object to in this, and I cannot see it. What exactly is the objection to critical pedagogy?
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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      • #48
        Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post

        If this is true, then the school boards are being inconsistent and should be replaced. If it can be read in the classroom - it should be something that can be read at a school board meeting.
        Oh man, you have been living under a rock, or at least a media safe space.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          It's his hobby-horse / pet conspiracy theory. He wears critical pedagogy tinted glasses and thus sees it everywhere he looks.

          Psychiatrists would wonder why.
          When someone says "I like [example of queer pedagogy that was created by a "social justice" activist]," I take them at their word.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post

            I have to admit that I was not familiar with the term. Looking it up, I found: "Critical pedagogy is an educational philosophy that encourages students to think critically and question the information they receive. It's based on critical theory and challenges traditional educational systems for empowerment and social justice. Critical pedagogy encourages students to explore their surroundings and the status quo, and examine power structures, patterns of inequality, and oppressive acts. For example, instead of just accepting the information in a textbook, students should be encouraged to conduct their own research and read alternative narratives."

            I'm trying to find something to object to in this, and I cannot see it. What exactly is the objection to critical pedagogy?
            In short, it's critical theory as it applies to education which the Left has been trying to do since at least the 90s. It ties to the Frankfurt School and eventually Marxism.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

              Oh man, you have been living under a rock, or at least a media safe space.
              Because I’m not up to speed on the goings on in every school board meeting outside of my own district?
              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                In short, it's critical theory as it applies to education which the Left has been trying to do since at least the 90s. It ties to the Frankfurt School and eventually Marxism.
                Ummm…that does not align with what I just read. Sources?
                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post

                  Ummm…that does not align with what I just read. Sources?
                  What you posted literally contained:

                  It's based on critical theory and challenges traditional educational systems


                  "traditional education systems" is code for bourgeoisie. If you don't know what critical theory is, that's fine.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                    What exactly is the objection to critical pedagogy?
                    I hadn't heard of it either prior to Diogenes bringing it up on this board. AFAIK from talking to him and googling it, it's a bizarre anti-Semitic far-right conspiracy theory that he's got.

                    It traces strands of thinking through the writings of various Jewish Marxists, points to their reasonably run-of-the-mill and unobjectionable ideas about education, and basically attributes all the evils of the world to the Horrible Jewish Marxists Indoctrinating Our Children.

                    Enjoy your discussion with him on the subject.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      I hadn't heard of it either prior to Diogenes bringing it up on this board. AFAIK from talking to him and googling it, it's a bizarre anti-Semitic far-right conspiracy theory that he's got.

                      It traces strands of thinking through the writings of various Jewish Marxists, points to their reasonably run-of-the-mill and unobjectionable ideas about education, and basically attributes all the evils of the world to the Horrible Jewish Marxists Indoctrinating Our Children.

                      Enjoy your discussion with him on the subject.
                      Who cares if they're Jewish? I don't. That's like saying any criticism of Israel necessarily entails anti-Semitism.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                        Who cares if they're Jewish? I don't. That's like saying any criticism of Israel necessarily entails anti-Semitism.
                        Suuuuuure. You're just peddling a standard neo-Nazi anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, and you're Totally Not anti-Semitic in any way, you just hold all the other neo-Nazi positions related to that conspiracy theory.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Suuuuuure. You're just peddling a standard neo-Nazi anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, and you're Totally Not anti-Semitic in any way, you just hold all the other neo-Nazi positions related to that conspiracy theory.
                          If you want, you can view the old Cultural Marxism Wiki page

                          https://web.archive.org/web/20140519...ltural_Marxism

                          Old SEP

                          Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School.


                          Edited SEP

                          “Critical theory” refers to a family of theories that aim at a critique and transformation of society by integrating normative perspectives with empirically informed analysis of society’s conflicts, contradictions, and tendencies. In a narrow sense, “Critical Theory” (often denoted with capital letters) refers to the work of several generations of philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School.


                          Apparently the SEP is now a peddler of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

                          Also, which "neo-Nazi" positions do I hold?
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                            You see it as confusion. I see it as a normal part of learning about the world.
                            You have been assimilated.

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                              If you want, you can view the old Cultural Marxism Wiki page
                              I'm sure there's nothing suspicious about you being knowledgeable about different versions of a wikipedia page on an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that you hold.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                I'm sure there's nothing suspicious about you being knowledgeable about different versions of a wikipedia page on an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that you hold.
                                Pointing out revisionism is hardly "suspicious" unless you don't want such revisionism to be exposed. Also, what neo-Nazi conspiracy theory do I hold?
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