How long can Netanyahu survive in power?

[Cow Poke]

In my understanding, there are very few Christians left in Gaza. Both sides in the conflict are generally hostile towards Christians, who are only a small fraction of the population. Under Islam, Christians are dhimmis, and Jews who are Christians are the only Jews who are not welcome to emigrate to Israel.

Sadly, that's what I'm hearing, as well.

[Starlight]

You really need to do some study on "people groups". There are many Arabs and Jews who are actually Christians.

I'm not sure of your point. I can't work out whether you didn't read my post properly, and didn't spot I listed religious groups and then racial groups... or are just miffed I didn't mention the small number of Christians in the region. There are other religious minorities in the general region too.

[Cow Poke]

I'm not sure of your point. I can't work out whether you didn't read my post properly, and didn't spot I listed religious groups and then racial groups... or are just miffed I didn't mention the small number of Christians in the region. There are other religious minorities in the general region too.

I'm never 'miffed' at your posts, Star. Amused, entertained.... but never "miffed".

[eider]

Certainly some here seem to consider that everything Islamic is of the devil.

The Iranian government is clearly Islamic, but I have heard that Christianity is represented with its own seat in their parliament.

[Cow Poke]

The Iranian government is clearly Islamic, but I have heard that Christianity is represented with its own seat in their parliament.

You are partly correct.
Unfortunately, the Iranian parliament doesn't mean squat with regards to the ruling of Iran.

[Mountain Man]

Circling back to the earlier discussion about Hamas stealing aid intended for Gaza civilians...

Most of the aid being delivered to Gaza via the new “floating pier” constructed by the U.S. military is being stolen, according to reports.

The pier, announced by President Joe Biden in his State of the Union address, was completed last week, and the Pentagon said Tuesday that 569 metric tons of aid had been brought ashore thus far.

However, the Pentagon is unable to say how much, if any, of that aid has actually reached the organizations that are supposed to distribute it, as reports have emerged of Palestinians simply seizing aid from the back of delivery trucks.

Reuters reported on Tuesday that “there has been no aid delivered to a U.N. warehouse from a U.S.-built pier for two days.”

The U.N. said that 10 truckloads of food aid – transported from the pier site by U.N. contractors – were received on Friday at a World Food Programme warehouse in Deir El Balah in Gaza.

But on Saturday, only five truckloads made it to the warehouse after 11 others were cleaned out by Palestinians during the journey through an area that a U.N. official said has been hard to access with humanitarian aid.

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The U.N. did not receive any aid from the pier on Sunday or Monday. “We need to make sure that the necessary security and logistical arrangements are in place before we proceed,” said the U.N. official.

Asked about the situation in a press briefing on Tuesday, Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said it would not be accurate to say that no aid had arrived at all, but he could not explain how the U.S. would guarantee that aid from the pier would be delivered.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-eas...-being-stolen/

All the time and expense building the pier just so Hamas could continue hoarding supplies away from the civilian population.

[One Bad Pig]

Further,

Source: Daily Wire

None of the aid that President Joe Biden has sent to Gaza via a floating pier that the U.S. Military constructed has reached the Palestinian people, a U.S. official said this week.

Pentagon spokesperson Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said on Tuesday that none of the 569 tons of aid transported to Gaza since last week has reached the Palestinian people.

“The U.S. military is delivering [the aid] to the causeway. It’s then taken by non-U.S. contractors, driven over onto shore, put into an assembly area, which is where the NGOs that are supporting this effort pick it up and take it for onward distribution,” he said. “But as I mentioned, you know, via some discussions that have happened, again, as we work out processes and procedures, alternative routes for the safe movement of that cargo have been established, and aid is now being taken from those assembly areas to warehouses for further distribution throughout Gaza.”

Reuters reported that on Saturday, 16 trucks were en route to the warehouse when 11 were overrun and “were cleaned out by Palestinians during the journey through an area that a U.N. official said has been hard to access with humanitarian aid.”

Ryder acknowledged during the press conference that the aid was “intercepted by some people who took that aid off those vehicles.”

He said that while aid was making it in, none of the aid that has come in from the pier has been distributed to civilians in Gaza.

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Great job delivering aid to Hamas, Biden.

[Starlight]

But on Saturday, only five truckloads made it to the warehouse after 11 others were cleaned out by Palestinians during the journey

So a convoy of aid for hungry people travelled through an area where hungry people were, and those hungry people accessed that aid from 11 of the trucks. The other 5 trucks proceeded to the warehouse for further aid distribution to hungry people.

This is news why?

Hungry people got to eat. That's good.

Unfortunately, the aid agencies are estimating the level of need, due to mass starvation, at 500+ trucks daily. The above convoy of 16 trucks doesn't really make a dent in that.

Circling back to the earlier discussion about Hamas stealing aid intended for Gaza civilians...

That claim seems a bit absurd. Why do you waste our time with your idiocies?

[Cow Poke]

So a convoy of aid for hungry people travelled through an area where hungry people were, and those hungry people accessed that aid from 6 of the trucks. The other 5 trucks proceeded to the warehouse for further aid distribution to hungry people.

This is news why?

Hungry people got to eat. That's good.

Unfortunately, the aid agencies are estimating the level of need, due to mass starvation, at 500+ trucks daily. The above convoy of 11 trucks doesn't really make a dent in that.

That claim seems a bit absurd. Why do waste our time with your idiocies?

wow

[Mountain Man]

So a convoy of aid for hungry people travelled through an area where hungry people were, and those hungry people accessed that aid from 11 of the trucks. The other 5 trucks proceeded to the warehouse for further aid distribution to hungry people.

This is news why?

Hungry people got to eat. That's good.

Unfortunately, the aid agencies are estimating the level of need, due to mass starvation, at 500+ trucks daily. The above convoy of 16 trucks doesn't really make a dent in that.

That claim seems a bit absurd. Why do you waste our time with your idiocies?

Yes, I'm sure when Hamas ransacked those trucks, they made sure the supplies were equitably distributed to the citizens of Gaza.

[Starlight]

Yes, I'm sure when Hamas ransacked those trucks, they made sure the supplies were equitably distributed to the citizens of Gaza.

I doubt Hamas took the aid.

I think if Hamas did take the aid then it went to feed hungry people, which is fundamentally the point of the aid.

Hamas getting some flour is not going to change the outcome of the war. But it might feed some hungry people, which is a moral good.

[Cow Poke]

I doubt Hamas took the aid.

I think if Hamas did take the aid then it went to feed hungry people, which is fundamentally the point of the aid.

Hamas getting some flour is not going to change the outcome of the war. But it might feed some hungry people, which is a moral good.

Because Hamas has historically been an amazingly generous and competent caretaker of the people of Gaza and purely humanitarian.

[Starlight]

Because Hamas has historically been an amazingly generous and competent caretaker of the people of Gaza

I was going to respond that I think they're below average at quality of government... but on reflection I feel that I don't actually know. The more I think about it, the harder I think it is to objectively assess the quality of Hamas' governance of Gaza, since Gaza is so resource-constrained and so heavily dependent on foreign aid. The best metric I can think of offhand is polling, and that seems to show Hamas more popular than the Fatah party that previously governed Gaza, so they seemed to have done okay in that sense. Hard to know how much the polling reflects people's views about their foreign policy toward Israel, versus how much it's an assessment of their governing of Gazan civilians.

and purely humanitarian.

Did you know that Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, and that the Muslim Brotherhood's origins were (wiki): "taught the illiterate, and set up hospitals and business enterprises... Charity is a major aspect of its work."? So, yes, Hamas, has major humanitarian elements in its origins, though it has grown into much more and changed substantially over the years.

[Cow Poke]

...Did you know that Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, and that the Muslim Brotherhood's origins were (wiki): "taught the illiterate, and set up hospitals and business enterprises... Charity is a major aspect of its work."? So, yes, Hamas, has major humanitarian elements in its origins, though it has grown into much more and changed substantially over the years.

So.... Muslim Brotherhood was supposedly "the good guys" at one time.
Hamas emerged, and we see them today as a terrorist organization.

HAMAS sprung up in 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada. Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and operates inside the Palestinian territories. The group’s charter calls for establishing an Islamic Palestinian state in place of Israel and rejects all agreements made between the PLO and Israel. HAMAS’ strength is (was) concentrated in the Gaza Strip and areas of the West Bank.

It is totally irrelevant what the Muslim Brotherhood was at one time. Hamas is a terrorist organization bent on the destruction of Israel.

[Mountain Man]

I doubt Hamas took the aid.

I think if Hamas did take the aid then it went to feed hungry people, which is fundamentally the point of the aid.

Hamas getting some flour is not going to change the outcome of the war. But it might feed some hungry people, which is a moral good.

I have no doubt that Hamas took the aid and squirreled it away in one of their many underground bunkers away from the citizens of Gaza, seeing as they have a long and well-documented history of doing exactly that.