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[seer]

Yes, ma'am - it's called war --- and the idiots who run Hamas knew full well that they were going to cause Israel to rain down hell on Gaza.

How come all these leftists are not calling for the release of all hostages and the surrender of all Hamas fighters?

[Cow Poke]

How come all these leftists are not calling for the release of all hostages and the surrender of all Hamas fighters?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I ignored it.



Yes, ma'am - it's called war --- and the idiots who run Hamas knew full well that they were going to cause Israel to rain down hell on Gaza.

That puts me in mind of Nazi reprisals after assassinations. Heydrich's in particular.

[Cow Poke]

That puts me in mind of Nazi reprisals after assassinations. Heydrich's in particular.

Yes, Ma'am - you tend to dwell in Nazi-land.

[Diogenes]

"N(on) P(layable) C(haracter)"is what the "kids" say today.

[Cow Poke]

"N(on) P(layable) C(haracter)"is what the "kids" say today.

So it's true? Kids say the darndest things?

[rogue06]

All the numbers are estimates. Changing the estimates from one set to the other, doesn't really prove which one is right, if either one is.

Due to Israel's actions, neither the UN nor Hamas are in any position to take any detailed census.

But they were slavishly accepting the numbers HAMAS supplied them until they could no longer ignore the fact they were being lied to forcing them to cut estimates by nearly half.

[rogue06]

Sorry, you must have meant due to Hamas' actions in starting this war...Any other position would be anti Semitic...

C'monman! All HAMAS wants is a ceasefire and peace. Of course, that was exactly what they had up until October 7th when they threw it away.

[rogue06]

That puts me in mind of Nazi reprisals after assassinations. Heydrich's in particular.

Were those assassinations of hundreds of women and children? Did they decapitate some babies?

That comparison just shows what a twisted sick mind you have always seeking to rationalize away any attack against the Jews.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Were those assassinations of hundreds of women and children? Did they decapitate some babies?

That comparison just shows what a twisted sick mind you have always seeking to rationalize away any attack against the Jews.

I was referring to Nazi reprisals particularly following Heydrich's assassination. Does the name Lidice mean anything?

[Cow Poke]

I was referring to Nazi reprisals particularly following Heydrich's assassination. Does the name Lidice mean anything?

This ain't that.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

This ain't that.

Your comment "Hamas knew full well that they were going to cause Israel to rain down hell on Gaza" could equally apply to the actions of the resistance movements during WW2. They also knew that hell would rain down. Consider Crete.

[Cow Poke]

Your comment "Hamas knew full well that they were going to cause Israel to rain down hell on Gaza" could equally apply to the actions of the resistance movements during WW2. They also knew that hell would rain down. Consider Crete.

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[Starlight]

All the numbers are estimates. Changing the estimates from one set to the other, doesn't really prove which one is right, if either one is.

Due to Israel's actions, neither the UN nor Hamas are in any position to take any detailed census.

Apparently the change in estimates is a result of changing the count from being a count of bodies to being a count of identified bodies.

FWIW, I disagree with that change. I think it's far more important to have an estimate of total deaths, than it is to know about the number of bodies that have been successfully connected to a name.

[Starlight]

But they were slavishly accepting the numbers HAMAS supplied them until they could no longer ignore the fact they were being lied to forcing them to cut estimates by nearly half.

Why is everything you say false?

CNN: UN says total number of deaths in Gaza remains unchanged after controversy over revised data

The United Nations on Monday clarified that the overall number of fatalities in Gaza tallied by the Ministry of Health in Gaza remains unchanged, at more than 35,000, since the war broke out between Israel and Hamas on October 7.

The clarification comes after the UN humanitarian agency OCHA (United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs) published a report on May 8 with revised data regarding the number of Palestinian casualties in the war. The UN agency in its report reduced the number of women and children believed to have been killed in the war by nearly half.

The number was reduced because the UN says it is now relying on the number of deceased women and children whose names and other identifying details have been fully documented, rather than the total number of women and children killed. The ministry says bodies that arrive at hospitals get counted in the overall death count.

UN spokesperson Farhan Haq told a daily briefing at the UN that the health ministry in Gaza recently published two separate death tolls – an overall death toll and a total number of identified fatalities. In the UN report, only the total number of fatalities whose identities (such as name and date of birth) have been documented was published, leading to confusion.