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    Coming clean: 1 in 5 admits 2020 election fraud

    by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
    December 12, 2023 10:25 AM - Latest

    About 20% of 2020 voters now claim they took advantage of election laws that loosened up because of the coronavirus crisis to commit fraud, including filling out ballots for others, according to a shocking report being unveiled Tuesday.

    Some admitted they voted in states they don’t live in, and others said they let somebody else fill out their mail-in ballots, neither of which is allowed.

    “For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves,” said Justin Haskins, director of the Heartland Institute’s Socialism Research Center.

    “The 2020 election was unlike any other in history as tens of millions of Americans voted by mail due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, many experts warned that massive mail-in voting could result in widespread voter fraud. Unfortunately, these concerns were prophetic, as the results of this poll clearly show that a large number of voters did indeed fraudulently cast ballots in the 2020 election,” Heartland Editorial Director Chris Talgo added.

    The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.

    In 2020, as the COVID crisis grew, several states loosened election laws to allow mail-in voting, vote bundling, absentee voting, and other changes to let those concerned about getting the virus stay away from the polls.

    The changes were sold as positive moves to make voting easier but have since raised red flags. Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have claimed that Democrats took advantage of the laws to make Joe Biden president fraudulently.

    Other surveys have shown that sizable groups of voters agree the election was plagued with fraud, but this is the first in which voters told a pollster they were involved.

    Among the findings shared with Secrets:
    • Twenty-one percent of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child, while 78% say they didn’t.
    • Thirty percent voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election.
    • Nineteen percent of those who cast mail-in votes say a friend or family member filled out their ballot, in part or in full.
    • Seventeen percent of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.
    • Among all voters, mail and in-person, 11% said a friend, family member, co-worker, or other acquaintance has admitted to them they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person in 2020.


    EDIT - fixing broken link in story.
    Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-13-2023, 07:09 AM.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Coming clean: 1 in 5 admits 2020 election fraud

    by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
    December 12, 2023 10:25 AM - Latest

    About 20% of 2020 voters now claim they took advantage of election laws that loosened up because of the coronavirus crisis to commit fraud, including filling out ballots for others, according to a shocking report being unveiled Tuesday.

    Some admitted they voted in states they don’t live in, and others said they let somebody else fill out their mail-in ballots, neither of which is allowed.

    “For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves,” said Justin Haskins, director of the Heartland Institute’s Socialism Research Center.

    “The 2020 election was unlike any other in history as tens of millions of Americans voted by mail due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, many experts warned that massive mail-in voting could result in widespread voter fraud. Unfortunately, these concerns were prophetic, as the results of this poll clearly show that a large number of voters did indeed fraudulently cast ballots in the 2020 election,” Heartland Editorial Director Chris Talgo added.

    The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.

    In 2020, as the COVID crisis grew, several states loosened election laws to allow mail-in voting, vote bundling, absentee voting, and other changes to let those concerned about getting the virus stay away from the polls.

    The changes were sold as positive moves to make voting easier but have since raised red flags. Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have claimed that Democrats took advantage of the laws to make Joe Biden president fraudulently.

    Other surveys have shown that sizable groups of voters agree the election was plagued with fraud, but this is the first in which voters told a pollster they were involved.

    Among the findings shared with Secrets:
    • Twenty-one percent of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child, while 78% say they didn’t.
    • Thirty percent voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election.
    • Nineteen percent of those who cast mail-in votes say a friend or family member filled out their ballot, in part or in full.
    • Seventeen percent of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.
    • Among all voters, mail and in-person, 11% said a friend, family member, co-worker, or other acquaintance has admitted to them they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person in 2020.
    Curious. On the site and in your OP when the second link in this:

    The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.


    is clicked - I get this:

    Page not found

    The requested page could not be found.


    The possible reasons for this are:
    • The page name was misspelled. Try changing the URL.
    • The page does not exist on this site.

    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

      Curious. On the site and in your OP when the second link in this:

      The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.


      is clicked - I get this:

      Page not found

      The requested page could not be found.


      The possible reasons for this are:
      • The page name was misspelled. Try changing the URL.
      • The page does not exist on this site.
      That happens - could be not available in your country? Are you browsing incognito, maybe?
      NOPE - happens to me, too... lemme check that out.
      Try this link, and I'll fix it in the OP....

      https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election
      Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-13-2023, 07:10 AM.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

      Comment


      • #4
        If anything many people would not admit to cheating to some stranger on the telephone, so the number is probably actually higher.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          Curious. On the site and in your OP when the second link in this:

          The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.


          is clicked - I get this:

          Page not found

          The requested page could not be found.


          The possible reasons for this are:
          • The page name was misspelled. Try changing the URL.
          • The page does not exist on this site.
          Looks like they changed the url. Here is the working link:

          https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election


          Also here is a link to the actual poll questions and answers:

          https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._december_2023





          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Coming clean: 1 in 5 admits 2020 election fraud

            by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
            December 12, 2023 10:25 AM - Latest

            About 20% of 2020 voters now claim they took advantage of election laws that loosened up because of the coronavirus crisis to commit fraud, including filling out ballots for others, according to a shocking report being unveiled Tuesday.

            Some admitted they voted in states they don’t live in, and others said they let somebody else fill out their mail-in ballots, neither of which is allowed.

            “For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves,” said Justin Haskins, director of the Heartland Institute’s Socialism Research Center.

            “The 2020 election was unlike any other in history as tens of millions of Americans voted by mail due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, many experts warned that massive mail-in voting could result in widespread voter fraud. Unfortunately, these concerns were prophetic, as the results of this poll clearly show that a large number of voters did indeed fraudulently cast ballots in the 2020 election,” Heartland Editorial Director Chris Talgo added.

            The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.

            In 2020, as the COVID crisis grew, several states loosened election laws to allow mail-in voting, vote bundling, absentee voting, and other changes to let those concerned about getting the virus stay away from the polls.

            The changes were sold as positive moves to make voting easier but have since raised red flags. Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have claimed that Democrats took advantage of the laws to make Joe Biden president fraudulently.

            Other surveys have shown that sizable groups of voters agree the election was plagued with fraud, but this is the first in which voters told a pollster they were involved.

            Among the findings shared with Secrets:
            • Twenty-one percent of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child, while 78% say they didn’t.
            • Thirty percent voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election.
            • Nineteen percent of those who cast mail-in votes say a friend or family member filled out their ballot, in part or in full.
            • Seventeen percent of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.
            • Among all voters, mail and in-person, 11% said a friend, family member, co-worker, or other acquaintance has admitted to them they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person in 2020.


            EDIT - fixing broken link in story.
            Oh boy! That's a lot of people the left need to start accusing of being election deniers. Lessee... 155,507,476 votes cast for OMB and Old Joe. That's 31,101,495 more conspiracy theorists.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Oh boy! That's a lot of people the left need to start accusing of being election deniers. Lessee... 155,507,476 votes cast for OMB and Old Joe. That's 31,101,495 more conspiracy theorists.
              They should all be rounded up and put in prison along with the J6 insurrectionists!

              OR ... just mark it down as something that requires remedy so it doesn't happen again.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                They should all be rounded up and put in prison along with the J6 insurrectionists!

                OR ... just mark it down as something that requires remedy so it doesn't happen again.
                The remedy is votes cast in person, with photo ID, on election day. No more of this mail in ballot or early voting nonsense.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Coming clean: 1 in 5 admits 2020 election fraud

                  by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
                  December 12, 2023 10:25 AM - Latest

                  About 20% of 2020 voters now claim they took advantage of election laws that loosened up because of the coronavirus crisis to commit fraud, including filling out ballots for others, according to a shocking report being unveiled Tuesday.

                  Some admitted they voted in states they don’t live in, and others said they let somebody else fill out their mail-in ballots, neither of which is allowed.

                  “For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves,” said Justin Haskins, director of the Heartland Institute’s Socialism Research Center.

                  “The 2020 election was unlike any other in history as tens of millions of Americans voted by mail due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, many experts warned that massive mail-in voting could result in widespread voter fraud. Unfortunately, these concerns were prophetic, as the results of this poll clearly show that a large number of voters did indeed fraudulently cast ballots in the 2020 election,” Heartland Editorial Director Chris Talgo added.

                  The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.

                  In 2020, as the COVID crisis grew, several states loosened election laws to allow mail-in voting, vote bundling, absentee voting, and other changes to let those concerned about getting the virus stay away from the polls.

                  The changes were sold as positive moves to make voting easier but have since raised red flags. Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have claimed that Democrats took advantage of the laws to make Joe Biden president fraudulently.

                  Other surveys have shown that sizable groups of voters agree the election was plagued with fraud, but this is the first in which voters told a pollster they were involved.

                  Among the findings shared with Secrets:
                  • Twenty-one percent of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child, while 78% say they didn’t.
                  • Thirty percent voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election.
                  • Nineteen percent of those who cast mail-in votes say a friend or family member filled out their ballot, in part or in full.
                  • Seventeen percent of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.
                  • Among all voters, mail and in-person, 11% said a friend, family member, co-worker, or other acquaintance has admitted to them they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person in 2020.


                  EDIT - fixing broken link in story.
                  When I click the report, it says “Page not found.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    That happens - could be not available in your country? Are you browsing incognito, maybe?
                    NOPE - happens to me, too... lemme check that out.
                    Try this link, and I'll fix it in the OP....

                    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                    Looks like they changed the url. Here is the working link:

                    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election


                    Also here is a link to the actual poll questions and answers:

                    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._december_2023



                    Thank you.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      The remedy is votes cast in person, with photo ID, on election day. No more of this mail in ballot or early voting nonsense.
                      Mail-in voting is entirely legitimate and used by all political affiliations:

                      Two-thirds of Trump voters say they voted in person, compared with 42% of Biden voters. Nearly four-in-ten Trump voters (37%) say they voted in person on Election Day, while just 17% of Biden voters say they cast their ballot at a polling place on Nov. 3.

                      Trump voters are also slightly more likely than Biden voters to say they voted in person before Election Day. Three-in-ten Trump voters report voting this way, compared with 24% of Biden voters.

                      Black voters were less likely to vote by absentee or mail-in ballot than white, Hispanic and Asian American voters. About four-in-ten Black voters (38%) say they voted by mail, compared with 45% of white voters, 51% of Hispanic voters and two-thirds of Asian American voters.

                      https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...ience-in-2020/


                      Even if people such as this man take advantage of the system to vote for his dead wife, it’s still worth the convenience:

                      DENVER (AP) — A Colorado man who had been charged in the presumed death of his missing wife has pleaded guilty to forgery for casting her 2020 election ballot for then-President Donald Trump.

                      Barry Morphew pleaded guilty Thursday and was fined and assessed court costs of $600, The Denver Post reported. He avoids jail time as part of a plea agreement.


                      https://apnews.com/article/2022-midt...3b36142300cdb7

                      Mail-in ballots, which take longer to count since they must be removed from envelopes and verified before they are counted. The GOP in swing states prohibited early processing of mail-in votes:

                      Swing state GOP lawmakers refused early vote processing, sowing current chaos

                      But Republican-led legislatures in states that are the center of chaos, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, refused to pass laws that would have allowed pre-canvassing mail ballots before Nov. 3.

                      Pre-canvassing, which currently takes place in 32 states under both Republican and Democratic control, does not include counting or tabulating votes but allows officials to check mail-in ballots for their eligibility and preparing them to be scanned, speeding up the process.


                      Trump’s complete ignorance of this fact led to his obstinate outrage.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Coming clean: 1 in 5 admits 2020 election fraud

                        by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
                        December 12, 2023 10:25 AM - Latest

                        About 20% of 2020 voters now claim they took advantage of election laws that loosened up because of the coronavirus crisis to commit fraud, including filling out ballots for others, according to a shocking report being unveiled Tuesday.

                        Some admitted they voted in states they don’t live in, and others said they let somebody else fill out their mail-in ballots, neither of which is allowed.

                        “For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves,” said Justin Haskins, director of the Heartland Institute’s Socialism Research Center.

                        “The 2020 election was unlike any other in history as tens of millions of Americans voted by mail due to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, many experts warned that massive mail-in voting could result in widespread voter fraud. Unfortunately, these concerns were prophetic, as the results of this poll clearly show that a large number of voters did indeed fraudulently cast ballots in the 2020 election,” Heartland Editorial Director Chris Talgo added.

                        The public policy nonprofit group shared its new Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey revealing the possible fraud in the 2020 election with Secrets.

                        In 2020, as the COVID crisis grew, several states loosened election laws to allow mail-in voting, vote bundling, absentee voting, and other changes to let those concerned about getting the virus stay away from the polls.

                        The changes were sold as positive moves to make voting easier but have since raised red flags. Former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have claimed that Democrats took advantage of the laws to make Joe Biden president fraudulently.

                        Other surveys have shown that sizable groups of voters agree the election was plagued with fraud, but this is the first in which voters told a pollster they were involved.

                        Among the findings shared with Secrets:
                        • Twenty-one percent of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child, while 78% say they didn’t.
                        • Thirty percent voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election.
                        • Nineteen percent of those who cast mail-in votes say a friend or family member filled out their ballot, in part or in full.
                        • Seventeen percent of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.
                        • Among all voters, mail and in-person, 11% said a friend, family member, co-worker, or other acquaintance has admitted to them they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person in 2020.


                        EDIT - fixing broken link in story.
                        Coming clean? I don't think so. "Hey honey, would you take my ballot over when you take yours" qualifies here. This looks more to me like bogus propaganda from election deniers than anything to be worried about, and especially anything that would lend support to 2020 election fraud claims.

                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                          Coming clean? I don't think so. "Hey honey, would you take my ballot over when you take yours" qualifies here. This looks more to me like bogus propaganda from election deniers than anything to be worried about, and especially anything that would lend support to 2020 election fraud claims.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                            Looks like they changed the url. Here is the working link:

                            https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election

                            Did you click on it? It’s still not working.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by whag View Post


                              Did you click on it? It’s still not working.
                              The one that I fixed in the OP works - here
                              Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-13-2023, 11:45 AM.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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