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Originally posted by Sparko View PostMost americans who carry guns do so responsibly.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI was not talking about crazies doing mass shootings. I was talking about ordinary citizens who carry guns legally who would use their guns with little provocation. "Hey, you didn't give me the right change!" BLAM! or similar. Just because citizens can and do carry guns doesn't make the USA like the wild west (or what movies show the wild west to be) - there are not a lot (mass) of shootings happening because americans carry guns around with them. Which is what a lot of liberals seem to be promoting as the problem. Most americans who carry guns do so responsibly.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostBut as Teallaura correctly points out, plenty of crazies start off as ordinary citizens. You don't necessarily cross over into what most people would consider a "crazy" until the day you decide to shoot your office up.
I was just commenting on how gun control laws would not really affect much gun incidents since most crime is done by criminals or those who would still get the guns illegally. That ordinary legal gun owners didn't go around shooting their guns at the drop of a hat so taking their guns away would not lower gun incidents that were not happening in the first place and the ones that are happening (gang wars, mass shooting by nutjobs or terrorists) would still happen anyway.
And no, "ordinary" people don't usually just go off the rails and start shooting up the office. There is usually a history of nutjobbery somewhere there. People might not have noticed it, but usually sane people don't just go nuts one day for no reason and shoot up offices or night clubs.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostBut as Teallaura correctly points out, plenty of crazies start off as ordinary citizens. You don't necessarily cross over into what most people would consider a "crazy" until the day you decide to shoot your office up.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInterviews with friends and neighbors of James Hodgkinson, the wannabe assassin of Republican Congressmen, were all describing how normal he was.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postnot really. they said he was an odd guy and an angry little man and he posted a lot of crap on facebook.
1. It should be noted that in a video interview his friend, Dale Walsh, immediately launched into a political polemic of his own against some local politician and had to be brought back to the subject. This may or may not be suggestive about what the folks who saw him as normal are like.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMaybe it was his family. His brother said he lived a "normal life" and his niece described him as a "regular guy." His childhood friend described him as a "fun-loving guy" and a "nice guy" and said he was shocked to learn that he was an extremist[1]. Another friend, Charles Orear, described him "quite mellow." And the New York Times described him as an "ordinary Midwest Democrat" who "had surprisingly normal political beliefs"
1. It should be noted that in a video interview his friend, Dale Walsh, immediately launched into a political polemic of his own against some local politician and had to be brought back to the subject. This may or may not be suggestive about what the folks who saw him as normal are like.
In Belleville, alleged gunman remembered 'as a very irascible, angry little man'
For years, James T. Hodgkinson lived what seemed to be an unremarkable life in this quiet community outside St. Louis, sharing a house with his longtime wife, Sue, and running a home inspection and appraisal business.
But at times, residents say, he showed flashes of anger and violence. In 2006, he was charged with a domestic assault involving a gun and, more recently, a neighbor complained to police that he was shooting his rifle at trees on his property.
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"He was a bit of a misanthrope," said Lyndon Evanko, a retired attorney who said he represented Hodgkinson. "He came across as a very irascible, angry little man, but not somebody I would expect to do something like this."
One man reached by the Tribune on Wednesday who is related to Hodgkinson by marriage said he had met him a few times, and was struck by Hodgkinson's odd personality. Hodgkinson was often "in his own world," the man said.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...614-story.html
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
In Belleville, alleged gunman remembered 'as a very irascible, angry little man'
For years, James T. Hodgkinson lived what seemed to be an unremarkable life in this quiet community outside St. Louis, sharing a house with his longtime wife, Sue, and running a home inspection and appraisal business.
But at times, residents say, he showed flashes of anger and violence. In 2006, he was charged with a domestic assault involving a gun and, more recently, a neighbor complained to police that he was shooting his rifle at trees on his property.
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"He was a bit of a misanthrope," said Lyndon Evanko, a retired attorney who said he represented Hodgkinson. "He came across as a very irascible, angry little man, but not somebody I would expect to do something like this."
One man reached by the Tribune on Wednesday who is related to Hodgkinson by marriage said he had met him a few times, and was struck by Hodgkinson's odd personality. Hodgkinson was often "in his own world," the man said.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...614-story.html
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostBut as Teallaura correctly points out, plenty of crazies start off as ordinary citizens. You don't necessarily express in action what most people would consider a "crazy" until the day you decide to shoot your office up.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInterviews with friends and neighbors of James Hodgkinson, the wannabe assassin of Republican Congressmen, were all describing how normal he was.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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