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[JimL]

Historically speaking Hitler was on a ballot and was voted into office

Yeah, I know. Extenuating circumstances, he got like 32% of the vote and won, though I forget exactly how that happened.

[Starlight]

Yeah, I know. Extenuating circumstances, he got like 32% of the vote and won, though I forget exactly how that happened.

It was a multi-party system, where each party gets representation equal to its share of the vote, and then once elected, parties negotiate among themselves to come up with an alliance with >50% total in order to govern. Germany has the same system today, as does NZ. It generally works well as it allows for multiple parties and the will of the people to be heard, and is easily superior to the system of plurality-voting that's used currently in the US and UK (and which used to be used in NZ).

However, once elected Hitler used various tactics (violent clashes in the streets among political supporters, setting fire to parliament buildings etc) to consolidate political power for himself and force other politicians to give him power. He also murdered all the socialists in his party because he didn't much like socialism and he saw them as a threat to his power, so the 'national socialist' party wasn't very socialist after that.

[Mountain Man]

No, the USA is a Democracy...

The USA was never a democracy, you dope. In fact, our Founding Fathers soundly rejected the idea and made passionate arguments against it.

[Starlight]

The USA was never a democracy

Not this again. Seriously.

[Mountain Man]

Not this again. Seriously.

Seriously. It's a Representative Republic regardless of what ignorant liberals like you want to believe. It is literally spelled out in our Constitution, so there is zero ambiguity on the matter.

[rogue06]

The USA was never a democracy, you dope. In fact, our Founding Fathers soundly rejected the idea and made passionate arguments against it.

This has been explained ad nauseam. The game is to claim that the FFs were idiots or that republic and democracy are synonyms.

[Starlight]

The game is to claim that the FFs were idiots or that republic and democracy are synonyms.

Both of which are clearly true.

[JimL]

The USA was never a democracy, you dope. In fact, our Founding Fathers soundly rejected the idea and made passionate arguments against it.

A Republic is a Representative Democracy Ollie, and if you understood that you wouldn't keep bringing it up and making a complete fool of yourself. The Founding Fathers rejected direct Democracy, okay, you dope.

[tabibito]

A Republic is a Representative Democracy Ollie

Deh. Plenty of republics don't even pay lip-service to democracy.

[Mountain Man]

A Republic is a Representative Democracy...

No it's not, you idiot.

Our Founding Fathers rejected a democratic government because it amounts to little more than mob rule. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who described it as 51% of the population suppressing the rights of the remaining 49%. The Constitution was explicitly written to not establish a democratic form of government. Now you canplay your little games of false equivocation all you want, but you're arguing against history and the Constitution itself.

[rogue06]

This has been explained ad nauseam. The game is to claim that the FFs were idiots or that republic and democracy are synonyms.

Both of which are clearly true.

Case in point

[Sparko]

The desire to help is very noble, but nobility must be paired with wisdom.
Help these people but do it in a way that doesn't endanger us - and that means helping them in their own countries.

Let me ask you this: Why are these people in such bad shape? I'd submit for your consideration it is their poisonous religious system - a religious system that has led to systemic oppression wherever it is practiced in great numbers. Combine their birth rates with our falling birth rates and you're seeding the future with disaster. Isn't it possible that even the poor, the wretched, the dying contain within them ideology that is a cancer to any society where it is allowed to flourish? Yes, it is sad when kids die but it is pathetic when a society allows itself to be infected with the disease of Islam. Children become dangerous men and I don't think it is wise to safe an immigrant while sacrificing our own children.

Every war, every atrocity, every injustice is the result of ideology.
You don't even understand that you're being disrespectful to these people.
You think their poison is manageable, that it can be contained, that they aren't sincere in their threats.
That is disrespect.

This is how they should show it happening in zombie movies. The zombies are eating people's brains and spreading, but the liberals are protecting them, saying "it's just their nature. They don't mean any harm. You are bigots for wanting to keep them out or shooting them in the heads!" and so they have sanctuary cities for zombies and safe zones... well you can imagine the rest.

[Sparko]

I'm not trying to convince liberals of anything.

The truth is I have a very weak intellect.
I've always felt insecure about it.
To assuage the insecurity I beat up on those with even weaker intellects.
That narrows my prey to liberals.

POTD.

[Sparko]

Didn't say he did, I said he and the many other misinformed fools. Apparently Gerbil doesn't vote, he's apparently to lazy for that, but he's made it perfectly clear that, did he take his civil responsibility seriously, he would have voted for Trump, but he just likes to sit on the sidelines and complain about the government that he doesn't participate in.

Gerbil lets dead people have his vote, so apparently he voted for Hillary by proxy.

[rogue06]

This is how they should show it happening in zombie movies. The zombies are eating people's brains and spreading, but the liberals are protecting them, saying "it's just their nature. They don't mean any harm. You are bigots for wanting to keep them out or shooting them in the heads!" and so they have sanctuary cities for zombies and safe zones... well you can imagine the rest.

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