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PARTY PLATFORM COMPARISON 2020-2024 - Anybody Disagree?
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
That's basically how the Republican Party operates. They stress the cultural wedge issues and the demonizing of democrats which tends to rile up their base against democrats which in turn allows the Republicans, the Party of the wealthy, to stab their less informed base in the back economically.
Democrats Being Party of the Rich Could Cost Them 2024 Election
Republicans' grasp on the upper crust of American society is beginning to slip, while Democrats are increasingly becoming the preferred party of America's elite. And it could cost them their grip on the White House.
Republicans have appealed to America's wealthy with a platform that's long committed itself to lower taxes and fewer regulations for big businesses. However, wealthier Americans are gravitating more toward Democrats, voting blue in the last two presidential elections. And the new appeal to wealthier individuals is creating a divide with a key Democratic voting bloc: blue-collar workers.
The trend threatens to widen existing fissures between party moderates and its traditionally lower-earning and more progressive base, potentially threatening Biden's chances for reelection and Democrats' ability to retake the House of Representatives. Particularly as working-class voters, including working-class voters of color, begin gravitating toward the GOP.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Reality check, though I know it won't do much to help partisan hack phonies like yourself to embrace reality outside of your false leftist echo chamber narratives...
Democrats Being Party of the Rich Could Cost Them 2024 Election
Republicans' grasp on the upper crust of American society is beginning to slip, while Democrats are increasingly becoming the preferred party of America's elite. And it could cost them their grip on the White House.
Republicans have appealed to America's wealthy with a platform that's long committed itself to lower taxes and fewer regulations for big businesses. However, wealthier Americans are gravitating more toward Democrats, voting blue in the last two presidential elections. And the new appeal to wealthier individuals is creating a divide with a key Democratic voting bloc: blue-collar workers.
The trend threatens to widen existing fissures between party moderates and its traditionally lower-earning and more progressive base, potentially threatening Biden's chances for reelection and Democrats' ability to retake the House of Representatives. Particularly as working-class voters, including working-class voters of color, begin gravitating toward the GOP.
Democrats haven't changed, they're still the party of the blue collar working class. Or are you suggesting that Bidens policies have been more to your liking lately. Let's not be silly now. It's the Republican Party that's changed sean. Not that they all of a sudden abandoned the wealthy elite, (btw, glad you agree with the article in its defining your Republican Party as the long time Party of the wealthy elite ) they've just gone anti democracy. Americans don't like that Sean, even the wealthy ones!
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Originally posted by JimL View Post...
Democrats haven't changed, they're still the party of the blue collar working class. ...
The trend threatens to widen existing fissures between party moderates and its traditionally lower-earning and more progressive base, potentially threatening Biden's chances for reelection and Democrats' ability to retake the House of Representatives. Particularly as working-class voters, including working-class voters of color, begin gravitating toward the GOP.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post...Let's not be silly now. It's the Republican Party that's changed sean. Not that they all of a sudden abandoned the wealthy elite, (btw, glad you agree with the article in its defining your Republican Party as the long time Party of the wealthy elite...
"It used to be that the Republican Party was more or less the party of the well-off and affluent," Anthony Fowler, a professor in the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago who studies political polarization, told Newsweek. "And it seems like that's shifting."
Did you actually read the article, Jim?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
And also....
"It used to be that the Republican Party was more or less the party of the well-off and affluent," Anthony Fowler, a professor in the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago who studies political polarization, told Newsweek. "And it seems like that's shifting."
Did you actually read the article, Jim?
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
Yeah, I know what the "opinion piece" says CP..
Republicans Really Are the Party of the Working Class
Republicans are, in a strict quantitative sense, the party of the American working class. That is, they currently get more working-class (noncollege) votes than the Democrats. That was true in 2022 when Republicans carried the nationwide working-class House vote by 13 points. That was true in 2020, when Trump carried the nationwide working-class presidential vote by 4 points over Biden. Moreover, modeled estimates by the States of Change project indicate that Trump carried the working-class vote in 35 out of 50 states, including in critical states for the Democrats like Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, as well as in states that are slipping away from the party like Florida, Iowa, Ohio and Texas.
Another way of looking at this trend is by Congressional district. Currently Democrats dominate the more affluent districts while Republicans are cleaning up in the poorer districts.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
Gee, look where the alleged change began. When Trump took the stage in 2016.What a coincidence eh? Perhaps some of the wealthy elite would rather stick with democracy rather than with the new Trump Autocracy Party.
Democrats haven't changed, they're still the party of the blue collar working class. Or are you suggesting that Bidens policies have been more to your liking lately. Let's not be silly now. It's the Republican Party that's changed sean. Not that they all of a sudden abandoned the wealthy elite, (btw, glad you agree with the article in its defining your Republican Party as the long time Party of the wealthy elite ) they've just gone anti democracy. Americans don't like that Sean, even the wealthy ones!
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Originally posted by JimL View Post... Let's not be silly now. It's the Republican Party that's changed sean. Not that they all of a sudden abandoned the wealthy elite, (btw, glad you agree with the article in its defining your Republican Party as the long time Party of the wealthy elite ) they've just gone anti democracy. Americans don't like that Sean, even the wealthy ones!
Nine of the top 10 wealthiest congressional districts are represented by Democrats, while Republicans now represent most of the poorer half of the country, according to median income data provided by Rep. Marcy Kaptur's (D-Ohio) office.
Why it matters: The last several decades have ushered in a dramatic political realignment, as the GOP has broadened its appeal to a more diverse working class and Democrats have become the party of wealthier, more-educated voters.- "Republicans were the party of the country club, and they're increasingly the party of country," lobbyist and political analyst Bruce Mehlman told Axios.
- "We have seen an inversion of Democrat and Republican shares of the highest- and lowest-income districts — and the highest and lowest college degree-holding districts," Cook Political Report's Dave Wasserman told Axios.
By the numbers: 64% of congressional districts with median incomes below the national median are now represented by Republicans — a shift in historical party demographics, the data shows.- Some of the highest-income districts have long voted Democrat, but growing inequality is widening the gap between them and working-class swing districts critical to winning majorities.
- "Increasingly, districts that make up the majority of the Democratic caucus don't really reflect the middle-income districts where the House is won and lost,” Wasserman said.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
And also....
"It used to be that the Republican Party was more or less the party of the well-off and affluent," Anthony Fowler, a professor in the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago who studies political polarization, told Newsweek. "And it seems like that's shifting."
Did you actually read the article, Jim?
And here’s an interesting development:
Recent columns published by conservative outlets like The National Review have called for an end to government subsidies for corporations long-considered engines for economic development. Conservative pollsters like Rasmussen have also found an increasing affinity for ending "corporate welfare" among Republican voters across the country.
So conservative outlets have finally addressed the myth of “trickle down” economics (i.e., corporate welfare/socialism) that the GOP has been peddling for decades.
Even more revealing, the article concludes:
While many of the people they spoke to initially favored progressive policies—higher taxes on the rich, a higher minimum wage, less power for the uber-rich—most, Pearl told Newsweek, outright refused to support Democratic candidates.
In sum, those who refused to vote for democratic candidates found that the rich deserved reduced taxes, the workers deserved small wages relative to cost of living, and the uber-rich deserved more power.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
That’s not the slam dunk you think it is.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
What you're leaving out is the fact the Reps are gaining support of the lower classes at the same time. It's clear what's happening. Economically speaking, the Dems are pushing for policies (i.e. climate change) that are negatively affecting the working class, and that don't affect upper class liberals as much. As a result, the upper class liberals support policies that the working class don't care much about above and beyond the fact they're struggling economically. IOW, the working class doesn't want a bunch of wealthy leftist authoritarians who fly around in private jets, living in million dollar estates, and who have private security lecturing to them about things like climate change and gun control. Abortion may be the thing that's off-putting to the lower class, but economics trumps all that.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
I’d wager you won’t ignore this: I read the article while you clearly didn’t.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
And what happened to your Big Red wave in 2018, and what happened to Trump in 2020. Cmon man, use your head. Republicans aren't working as hard as they can to suppress the vote and getting shot down by the Courts for their wild redistricting maneuvers. And how about Trump and his backers in Congress trying to overthrow the election? They're doing it because they keep getting their butts kicked.
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