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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI'm never going to give you up, gerbz.
Darth Executor and Starlight were kind of mean to me.
If you want to join me over there while I complain about how unfair life is, please do so.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI'm never going to give you up, gerbz.
Never gonna let him down
Never gonna run around and desert him
Never gonna make him cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt him
Uh oh. I just mighta assumed gender here.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou're never gonna give him up
Never gonna let him down
Never gonna run around and desert him
Never gonna make him cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt him
Uh oh. I just mighta assumed gender here.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostOriginally posted by Roy View PostBut now we are in a post-firearm technological society it is no longer the most human way.
You'd think that if the practice was originally instituted because it was humane, then the people of those religions would be clamouring for the introduction of even more human methods, but that is rarely the case. A few Muslim authorities favour stunning or anaesthesis of animals prior to halal slaughter, but many don't, not do I recall any such move from the kosher advocates.Originally posted by TAnimals don't have rights - that's NOT why we have laws against cruelty. If they had even one right then they would have all rights
1) Not necessarily - original intention may not be reflected in the desire to preserve tradition.
And even if we accept that modern methods are more humane (which I agree in theory but find debatable in practice) that doesn't make the practice inhumane.
2) Yes, necessarily unless you can come up with a limited basis to grant rights in the first place - I can't think of one.
Conscious enough to experience pain? Then why isn't that sufficient to grant representation to have a voice in the legal process that governs when pain/death may be dispensed?
Really tough can of worms if you're going to make an actual legal argument that has to stand up.Last edited by Teallaura; 05-10-2017, 07:53 PM."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post1) Not necessarily - original intention may not be reflected in the desire to preserve tradition.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDesiring to preserve tradition beyond the point where traditional practices cease to fulfil the requirements for the task at hand makes little sense to me. Even if it's being used as a means if distinguishing ingroup vs outgroup.
That is known as freedom.
I think most of what orthodox Jews do is borderline retarded.
That is why I'm for putting them in their own walled neighborhoods.
You know, for their protection.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwait. what? So you think anyone who is antisemitic is a neo-nazi? That liberals can't be antisemetic? What about muslims? Can they be antisemetic?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostAs I'm sure you realize, it doesn't have to make sense.
That is known as freedom.
I think most of what orthodox Jews do is borderline retarded.
That is why I'm for putting them in their own walled neighborhoods.
You know, for their protection.
http://www.businessinsider.com/jewis...abbath-2015-10
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Postif you had told me a week ago that a tweb thread would soon devolve into a gerbil/starlight back and forth about how much they both hate Jews I'd have thought you were crazy. the end of the world must be coming soon
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDesiring to preserve tradition beyond the point where traditional practices cease to fulfil the requirements for the task at hand makes little sense to me. Even if it's being used as a means if distinguishing ingroup vs outgroup."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Roy View PostBut now we are in a post-firearm technological society it is no longer the most human way.
You'd think that if the practice was originally instituted because it was humane, then the people of those religions would be clamouring for the introduction of even more human methods, but that is rarely the case. A few Muslim authorities favour stunning or anaesthesis of animals prior to halal slaughter, but many don't, not do I recall any such move from the kosher advocates.Last edited by Terraceth; 05-11-2017, 09:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostWell, that's because they claim stunning isn't as humane. Not sure how valid the arguments in that article are, though.
The arguments are valid - the facts supporting them are also true, although not extremely common in the case of misfire. As in humans, stunned doesn't necessarily mean insensible to pain."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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