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  • #16
    Originally posted by Roy View Post
    NAFAICT. MitUS.
    "However, prior to humane slaughter pistols and electric stunners, pigs, sheep and other animals (including cattle) were simply struck while fully conscious."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      "However, prior to humane slaughter pistols and electric stunners, pigs, sheep and other animals (including cattle) were simply struck while fully conscious."
      That's historical, not present practice. It doesn't support that slaughter is by a shotgun slug to the head. It doesn't even mention shotguns.
      Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

      MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
      MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

      seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Roy View Post
        That's historical, not present practice. It doesn't support that slaughter is by a shotgun slug to the head. It doesn't even mention shotguns.
        I was wrong about shotguns. They use pistols or captive bolt guns.

        It was saying that prior to using guns and electric stunners (which I mentioned) they used to just knock them unconscious, with a pole or stick.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
          A Belgian region has banned halal and kosher slaughter

          Halal is the Muslim version of Kosher. This affects Muslims as much as it does Jews.
          So now you're "fact checking" jokes, just like the fake news media you so adore.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
            Does Belgium ban medical research testing on animals?
            Apparently not: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33015460
            But one is pure and enlightened science while the other is ignorant and barbaric religion, so it's different.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              So now you're "fact checking" jokes,
              He's fact-checking you, so... yes.
              Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

              MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
              MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

              seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Roy View Post
                He's fact-checking you, so... yes.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                  Does Belgium ban medical research testing on animals?
                  Apparently not: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33015460
                  sounds like false equivalence.
                  "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                  There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                    sounds like false equivalence.
                    It could be false equivalence.
                    I still think the smart money is on anti-Semitism.
                    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                      It could be false equivalence.
                      I still think the smart money is on anti-Semitism.


                      It's no different from gay wedding cakes, except this time it's hitting two liberal voting minorities. All i feel is schadenfreude.
                      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                        I still think the smart money is on anti-Semitism.
                        I'm curious, why do you see anti-Semitism everywhere? Are you Jewish? As I pointed out to MM, this law affects Muslims as much as it does Jews. Do you believe it also to be motivated by anti-Muslim sentiment, or do you think being against Muslims is also anti-Semitic?

                        You guys seem to be in blatant denial of the obvious: That the animal rights movement has been campaigning heavily for the last decade about the importance of killing animals humanely and the need to stun animals before killing them, and that that is the motivation for this law.

                        Ironically, if the religious people really believed their own claims - that their holy books' recommended way of killing animals was out of concern for animal well-being and the holy book was recommending the kindest way to kill the animals that was technologically available to the people of the day - they they ought to support new and kinder ways of killing animals that are made available to us by technology. Instead they go all literalistic and claim we have to stick with the bronze-age way of killing the animals because their holy book says so.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          I'm curious, why do you see anti-Semitism everywhere? Are you Jewish?
                          Evangelicals have a huge, entirely one-sided bromance with Jews.
                          "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                          There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            I'm curious, why do you see anti-Semitism everywhere? Are you Jewish? As I pointed out to MM, this law affects Muslims as much as it does Jews. Do you believe it also to be motivated by anti-Muslim sentiment, or do you think being against Muslims is also anti-Semitic?

                            You guys seem to be in blatant denial of the obvious: That the animal rights movement has been campaigning heavily for the last decade about the importance of killing animals humanely and the need to stun animals before killing them, and that that is the motivation for this law.

                            Ironically, if the religious people really believed their own claims - that their holy books' recommended way of killing animals was out of concern for animal well-being and the holy book was recommending the kindest way to kill the animals that was technologically available to the people of the day - they they ought to support new and kinder ways of killing animals that are made available to us by technology. Instead they go all literalistic and claim we have to stick with the bronze-age way of killing the animals because their holy book says so.
                            Because animal rights and anti-Semitism in Belgium come from the same crowd: left wing extremists.
                            Source: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columni...heights-326993

                            Jews have been fleeing Belgium because of the anti-Semitism:
                            http://forward.com/news/breaking-new...-jews-fleeing/

                            So yeah, while animals can be tortured in the name of improving eye liner I find it a bit curious, that in a place over run with leftist leaning anti-Semites, a relatively quick death (though not ideal) for a cow is suddenly a really big problem. Denying the people you hate a proper way to produce their food is an invitation to leave - they're basically banning ethnic food. But hey, I wouldn't want to color your analysis of the subject with statistics on Jews leaving the area - you know, maybe they're just leaving behind generations of personal history because they're paranoid?

                            And for the record, I'd be all about putting animals down in the most merciful way possible.
                            And for the record, I wish Israel would disappear if only to remove the scape goat in the middle east - maybe after the adder attaches itself to your nose you'll be able to see it.
                            I've no end time theology tied to Israel and even if I did I wouldn't see it as the job of the USA to preserve that state.
                            A sure sign a country is on the wrong path is when they try to force some prophecy.
                            Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                            • #29
                              Oh look:
                              Since 1997, the number of European countries producing foie gras has halved. Only five countries still produce foie gras: Belgium, Romania, Spain, France and Hungary
                              Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy

                              I guess white people food is exempt.
                              How did I know to look for this and you didn't?
                              Probably has something to do with knowing how to start with a good premise: anti-Semitism.
                              Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                              • #30
                                And also, I'm not Jewish.
                                They're easily the most irritating minority on the planet.
                                I'm freakin' borderline anti-Semitic because I'm sick of the constant kvetching.
                                Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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