There's No England Now...

[One Bad Pig]

No. The Bible only explicitly endorses marriage between one man and one woman.

Further, it explicitly condemns polygamy in rulers, and there is not a single positive portrayal of it.

[Sparko]

Hmm, yeah, I guess we should make it clear that we don't support religion and do our best to stop people being religious. Let's ban religious people from marrying, for starters, and then also ban them having sex. And also, let's make it legal for any employers to fire anyone who's religious. And also have laws making sure religious people can't use public bathrooms, and prevent schools from banning the bullying of kids for being religious.

]Hmm, yeah, I guess we should make it clear that we don't support pedophilia and do our best to stop people being pedophiles. Let's ban pedophiles from marrying, for starters, and then also ban them having sex. And also, let's make it legal for any employers to fire anyone who's a pedophile. And also have laws making sure pedophiles can't use public bathrooms, blah, blah, blah.

[Mountain Man]

Further, it explicitly condemns polygamy in rulers, and there is not a single positive portrayal of it.

Yes. Just another display of ignorance from a guy who laughably claims to be a biblical expert.

[Faber]

" And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold." -Deuteronomy 17:20

[Meh Gerbil]

" And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold." -Deuteronomy 17:20

But a few wives would be okay?

[seer]

But a few wives would be okay?

Isn't one MORE than enough?

[Meh Gerbil]

Isn't one MORE than enough?

Manly men can handle 10-15 wives.

[Sparko]

Manly men can handle 10-15 wives.

Why? are they gluttons for punishment?


I think polygamy is a sin with the punishment built in.

[Mountain Man]

But a few wives would be okay?

That's a reasonable interpretation. No, really.

[Carrikature]

So cruelty and selfishness would also be baselines since they too show up time and again throughout history.

No. Pay attention. "Treat me well" and "let me live freely".

This isn't hard. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

[Carrikature]

Why? are they gluttons for punishment?

They put them in a separate building and only see them when they want to.

[Mountain Man]

No. Pay attention. "Treat me well" and "let me live freely".

This isn't hard. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

Again, we put felons in prison despite their desire to live freely and be treated well, so stop pretending these are absolute laws. What guiding principle lets you determine when these rules should be regarded and when they shouldn't?

[One Bad Pig]

Let me put it another way:

Anyone willing to forgo "treat me well" and "let me be free" can safely be excluded from the decision-making process. They're clearly getting what they want anyway.

Why should anyone be excluded from the decision-making process because they're getting what they want?

[One Bad Pig]

No. Pay attention. "Treat me well" and "let me live freely".

This isn't hard. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

What you're describing IS selfishness.

[seer]

No. Pay attention. "Treat me well" and "let me live freely".

This isn't hard. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

Then stop acting like one set of behaviors, that you happen to like, are the only possible source for baselines.