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  • #76
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    Well at least they canned the "Disinformation Board" headed by the Mary Poppins wannabe.
    The Ministry of Trooth?
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      The Ministry of Trooth?


      What an embarrassment that was.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post



        What an embarrassment that was.
        Both in person and principle.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Stoic View Post
          "Could", maybe. "Did" requires some evidence.


          Yeah, I wonder if it was more than zero.


          There were a number of them over the time period in question. None of them was Fauci, though. He was busy directing the NIAID.


          You've provided a lot of sources. Which one was that?
          The NIAID is the NIH division that deals with infectious diseases, so when we're taking about AIDS and the NIH 's questionable decisions in response to it, we're talking about Fauci the Fraud.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Well at least they canned the "Disinformation Board" headed by the Mary Poppins wannabe.
            Not really. We found out they were doing it discreetly through social media. And that was just twitter revelations. We have no idea what they're doing within other social media platforms, but there's no reason to believe it isn't more of the same.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by seanD View Post

              Not really. We found out they were doing it discreetly through social media. And that was just twitter revelations. We have no idea what they're doing within other social media platforms, but there's no reason to believe it isn't more of the same.
              Yes, the Misinformation Czar was simply an attempt to put a public face on something that Washington was already doing behind the scenes. I'm not sure why they thought nobody would object if they did it openly. I guess that's just how much of a bubble they're in?
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                The NIAID is the NIH division that deals with infectious diseases, so when we're taking about AIDS and the NIH 's questionable decisions in response to it, we're talking about Fauci the Fraud.
                Okay, so when you said: "There's also the fact that he approved of testing AIDS drugs on foster children which "exposed a vulnerable population to the risks of medical research and drugs that were known to have serious side effects in adults and for which the safety for children was unknown."

                What you really meant was: "There's also the fact that NIAID, while headed by Fauci, provided funds for testing AIDS drugs on foster children, who would have died from AIDS if they hadn't gotten into a study."

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                  Okay, so when you said: "There's also the fact that he approved of testing AIDS drugs on foster children which "exposed a vulnerable population to the risks of medical research and drugs that were known to have serious side effects in adults and for which the safety for children was unknown."

                  What you really meant was: "There's also the fact that NIAID, while headed by Fauci, provided funds for testing AIDS drugs on foster children, who would have died from AIDS if they hadn't gotten into a study."
                  Fauci's involvement in general with AZT seems more controversial than experimental treatments on effectively terminally ill children.
                  P1) If , then I win.

                  P2)

                  C) I win.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                    Fauci's involvement in general with AZT seems more controversial than experimental treatments on effectively terminally ill children.
                    And let's not forget how his absurdly wild speculations during the AIDS crisis led to much of the stigma and myths about people with AIDS being able to spread it via close contact.

                    https://www.yahoo.com/video/video-re...180945365.html
                    An old video circulating on social media shows Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warning that even just “close contact” with those already afflicted with AIDS could result in infection.

                    In the context of a conversation about childhood infections, Fauci speculates that “if the close contact of a child is a household contact, perhaps there will be a certain number of cases of individuals who are just living with and in close contact with someone with AIDS, or at risk of AIDS, who does not necessarily have to have intimate sexual contact or share a needle, but just the ordinary close contact that one sees in normal interpersonal relations.”

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                      And let's not forget how his absurdly wild speculations during the AIDS crisis led to much of the stigma and myths about people with AIDS being able to spread it via close contact.

                      https://www.yahoo.com/video/video-re...180945365.html
                      Personally I'm not a fan of "close contact" with anyone unless I know them extremely well. I don't accept U=U. I wouldn't disassociate from someone based of disease status, but I would let them know my heath came before theirs in certain situations.
                      P1) If , then I win.

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                      C) I win.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                        Being a COVID fact checker didn't require medical aptitude, let alone medical experience. Fact checking, in general, merely requires political aptitude.

                        In fact, medical experience would hinder fact-checking, much like lawyers make poor jurors and doctors poor patients.
                        This journalism is at best third hand bad sources. Not worthy of fact checking here.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                          This journalism is at best third hand bad sources. Not worthy of fact checking here.
                          I agree the NYT, PoltiFact, Poltico, and the Wapo are at best third hand bad sources.
                          P1) If , then I win.

                          P2)

                          C) I win.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                            Fauci's involvement in general with AZT seems more controversial than experimental treatments on effectively terminally ill children.
                            And yet still not very controversial.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                              And yet still not very controversial.
                              You don't think anything is controversial as far as your hero Fauci the Fraud is concerned.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                Well at least they canned the "Disinformation Board" headed by the Mary Poppins wannabe.
                                They're merely allowing other agencies take over various aspects of what it would have done.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

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