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Originally posted by JimL View PostWrong, theres plenty of evidence, there is just no absolute proof that Trump has any awareness of whats going on around him, at least no proof that has yet come out. Was Trump aware of the fact that the man he signed on as NSA was a foreign agent, did he know that he was communicating with the Russians over sanctions, did he know that P. Manafort was basically a Russian agent before he brought him on as campaign manager, did he know that Carter Page once passed documents to Russian spies, did he know that Wilber Ross was a big wig at Deutche Bank which was where the Russian Oligarchs did all their money laundering? There are so many people on Trump's team with connections to Russia that I can't remember them all off the top of my head, but who picked these people, why, and were they vetted at all? If so why were they still hired? So, there is no absolute proof, it may be that Trump is just a complete dupe, and has no idea whats going on around him, but that I think is highly unlikely considering his own connections to Russia and his constant praise of Putin.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThere is no evidence. Just inuendo and rumors, by anonymous sources.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd that's all it has ever been, going all the way back to Hillary's claim during one of the debates that "A dozen intelligence agencies are pretty darn certain Russia is up to something!" And come to find out, we don't have any good evidence that Russia was even involved in the first place with Crowdstrike being discredited.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhat I find really hilarious is that Jimmy and Tassy think that RUMORS of FBI investigations means automatic guilt on Trump's part, yet a few months ago, ACTUAL FBI Investigations against Hillary didn't mean anything at all, she was innocent!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhat I find really hilarious is that Jimmy and Tassy think that RUMORS of FBI investigations means automatic guilt on Trump's part,Last edited by Tassman; 04-07-2017, 10:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou are exonerating Trump before the investigation is completed, which is premature. Especially given the number of Trump associates with some sort of involvement with Russia. Yes its merely circumstantial evidence at this stage but there's a hell of a lot of it and growing.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNothing they are accusing him of is illegal. That's the point...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPersonally, they haven't accused him of anything yet, its under investigation, thats the point. But either way you look at it is not good for Trump, either he was complicit in the hiring of people he knew to be shady characters, or he's an incompetent boob who has no business being in the White House.
Thanks for identifying the only two possible options for us.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPersonally, they haven't accused him of anything yet, its under investigation, thats the point. But either way you look at it is not good for Trump, either he was complicit in the hiring of people he knew to be shady characters, or he's an incompetent boob who has no business being in the White House.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAgain, neither option is illegal.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually yeah it is, being an incompetent boob is not illegal, but if Trump was complicit in aiding a foriegn entity in their attempt to undermine the U.S. electoral process and democracy itself, it is illegal.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually yeah it is, being an incompetent boob is not illegal, but if Trump was complicit in aiding a foriegn entity in their attempt to undermine the U.S. electoral process and democracy itself, it is illegal.
The incompetent boobs who was in power: Hillary Clinton.
If Trump is guilty of a crime I want him to go down hard.
Would you be willing to say the same of Hillary Clinton?Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostSparko and I were discussing this earlier and we had reached the conclusion that there were only two possible options but we didn't know them.
Thanks for identifying the only two possible options for us.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI am still trying to figure out the "he is innocent but an incompetent boob" Option. If he is innocent and had no connection to any Russian Conspiracy to fix the election, then that means he won the election on his own merits and did not cheat, so how does that make him an incompetent boob like JimL?
I get the vague impression he really doesn't care for Donald Trump.
Don't take my word for it; ask him, I don't want to assume here.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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