Switzerland plans to BAN EVs from roads & order games consoles turned off

[Cow Poke]

People fear what they don't understand, and nuclear power isn't something the average person understands. They hear about Chernobyl, Fukushima, etc. and think that nuclear power is a huge threat. Radioactive materials handled incorrectly can cause some nasty things to happen, like the Radium Girls incident, or another incident, I believe in Japan, where a man fell apart over a period of weeks(maybe months) due to mishandling the materials. I don't fully remember, but this might have been at Fukushima before the meltdown.

But they are no more dead than people killed in coal dust explosions or refinery explosions, and those deaths are far more frequent.
(They just don't glow in the dark)

[Cow Poke]

But they are no more dead than people killed in coal dust explosions or refinery explosions, and those deaths are far more frequent.
(They just don't glow in the dark)

Study from 2010, so, obviously not including Japan's accident...

• More than 2 500 people are killed every year in severe energy related accidents and this figure is increasing as energy demand increases.
• Between 1969 and 2000 there were 2 259 and 3 713 fatalities in the coal and oil energy chains respectively in OECD countries, and 18 017 and 16 505 fatalities in non-OECD countries. Hydropower was responsible for 29 924 deaths in one incident in China. In contrast, there has only been one severe accident in nuclear power plants over this period of time (Chernobyl) which resulted in 31 fatalities.

[rogue06]

Random people do have the strangest beliefs about nuclear power. I saw a TYT clip a year or so back where they seemed to believe that nuclear power plants could explode like nuclear bombs. The recent TV series 100 had a radiation death wave coming from untended nuclear power plants.

People really don't seem to realize that in terms of deaths caused per unit of energy produced over history nuclear has been among the safest of all energy generation technologies. And yes, that includes Chernobyl.

Hollyweird in particular has shown massive ignorance regarding nuclear power and especially radiation for as long as I can remember. One particular trope is about the length of time of exposure before it was lethal. Typically the stars of the show would get away just seconds before receiving that lethal dose which meant they were right as rain. No side effects whatsoever from getting a near lethal dose. They don't even take any potassium iodine as a precaution because as everyone knows, near lethal exposure has absolutely no adverse effects.

[rogue06]

Study from 2010, so, obviously not including Japan's accident...

• More than 2 500 people are killed every year in severe energy related accidents and this figure is increasing as energy demand increases.
• Between 1969 and 2000 there were 2 259 and 3 713 fatalities in the coal and oil energy chains respectively in OECD countries, and 18 017 and 16 505 fatalities in non-OECD countries. Hydropower was responsible for 29 924 deaths in one incident in China. In contrast, there has only been one severe accident in nuclear power plants over this period of time (Chernobyl) which resulted in 31 fatalities.

Working on an oil rig or in a coal mine is dangerous work.

[Cow Poke]

Hollyweird in particular has shown massive ignorance regarding nuclear power and especially radiation for as long as I can remember. One particular trope is about the length of time of exposure before it was lethal. Typically the stars of the show would get away just seconds before receiving that lethal dose which meant they were right as rain. No side effects whatsoever from getting a near lethal dose. They don't even take any potassium iodine as a precaution because as everyone knows, near lethal exposure has absolutely no adverse effects.

Kinda like the cops with pistols holding off the bad guys who are using fully automatic weapons --- thousands of shots are killed, all the bad guys are dead and one cop has a flesh wound.

[Ronson]

Hollyweird in particular has shown massive ignorance regarding nuclear power and especially radiation for as long as I can remember. One particular trope is about the length of time of exposure before it was lethal. Typically the stars of the show would get away just seconds before receiving that lethal dose which meant they were right as rain. No side effects whatsoever from getting a near lethal dose. They don't even take any potassium iodine as a precaution because as everyone knows, near lethal exposure has absolutely no adverse effects.

Hey, those Hollyweird movies made for some great nuclear monsters. Giant animals and people terrorizing some community, finally defeated by the military, and then a sermon at the end about how horrible nuclear research is. Sort of like the movies that are knee-deep in violence and then preach peace at the audience in the end.

[rogue06]

Kinda like the cops with pistols holding off the bad guys who are using fully automatic weapons --- thousands of shots are killed, all the bad guys are dead and one cop has a flesh wound.

for the thousands of shots killed

[rogue06]

Hey, those Hollyweird movies made for some great nuclear monsters. Giant animals and people terrorizing some community, finally defeated by the military, and then a sermon at the end about how horrible nuclear research is. Sort of like the movies that are knee-deep in violence and then preach peace at the audience in the end.

Yeah, radiation makes you grow into gigantic proportions, or as was a favorite on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea,^[1] turned you into a werewolf.



1. I think that happened a couple of times but at least once for certain.

[Cow Poke]

for the thousands of shots killed

I did that just for you, ya know?

[rogue06]

I did that just for you, ya know?

Yup


As to the never ending gunfire without reloading:

Not long after getting a VCR the TV show Starsky and Hutch was on in syndication and they got ambushed along some stretch of isolated road. Using the VCR, I counted how many times each of them shot their respective pistols (one of which was a revolver -- a "six shooter"). Each fired well over 100 rounds before they stopped to talk while they finally reloaded.



As for thousand of rounds fired with nobody getting hurt:

A-Team. They could literally be lined up facing each other no more than 10' apart, open fire with automatic weapons, and nobody gets hit.

[Ronson]

In the case of Old West duels, I think Hollywood built an entire myth off of a fluke. Wild Bill Hickok struck his target with a deadly shot in a duel with a pistol from 75 yards away. I can't imagine that happeing very often. As far as the "quick draw" duel, I think that Hollywood myth was built from thin air. From what I've read, most gun battles were people shooting each other in the back. Hickock was shot in the back after attempting to get a seat at his poker table facing the door (which he did because back shooting was so common).

https://www.springfieldmo.gov/1839/W...-on-the-Square

[Cow Poke]

Yup


As to the never ending gunfire without reloading:

Not long after getting a VCR the TV show Starsky and Hutch was on in syndication and they got ambushed along some stretch of isolated road. Using the VCR, I counted how many times each of them shot their respective pistols (one of which was a revolver -- a "six shooter"). Each fired well over 100 rounds before they stopped to talk while they finally reloaded.



As for thousand of rounds fired with nobody getting hurt:

A-Team. They could literally be lined up facing each other no more than 10' apart, open fire with automatic weapons, and nobody gets hit.

We had a local celebrity kind of "hosting the movies" thing on TV, where they would do goofy stuff between segments of the movie.
Apparently, one of their favorites was a spoof on The Rifleman.

They would show him walking down the dirt road of the old Western town, and suddenly break into firing 37 rapid fire shots from his repeating rifle (looping the 3 or 4 times in the actual intro), then take one bullet out of his shirt pocket, slide it into the receiver, and continue firing and firing and firing....

Talk about a "magic bullet"!!!

[alaskazimm]

Yup


As to the never ending gunfire without reloading:

Not long after getting a VCR the TV show Starsky and Hutch was on in syndication and they got ambushed along some stretch of isolated road. Using the VCR, I counted how many times each of them shot their respective pistols (one of which was a revolver -- a "six shooter"). Each fired well over 100 rounds before they stopped to talk while they finally reloaded.



As for thousand of rounds fired with nobody getting hurt:

A-Team. They could literally be lined up facing each other no more than 10' apart, open fire with automatic weapons, and nobody gets hit.

That was the plan and when it came together, they loved it.

[rogue06]

In the case of Old West duels, I think Hollywood built an entire myth off of a fluke. Wild Bill Hickok struck his target with a deadly shot in a duel with a pistol from 75 yards away. I can't imagine that happeing very often. As far as the "quick draw" duel, I think that Hollywood myth was built from thin air. From what I've read, most gun battles were people shooting each other in the back. Hickock was shot in the back after attempting to get a seat at his poker table facing the door (which he did because back shooting was so common).

https://www.springfieldmo.gov/1839/W...-on-the-Square

IIRC, the Hollyweird classic duel at High Noon or the equivalent actually happened once (Hitchcock v. Tutt) and maybe, possibly a second time.

Hardly the monthly event in every town and city west of the Mississippi that is depicted.

[rogue06]

That was the plan and when it came together, they loved it.

I doubt that any of George Peppard's cigars lost a single flake of ash during one of their shootouts.