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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Bruh, he literally is going around doing photo ops.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Perfectly in context and extremely applicable especially with him going around doing photo ops to further push his performative praying.
Look, I get it, it's hard for many of today's Christians to do anything other than be performative in their prayer to make themselves look better than others including other Christians. It's an addiction related to the persecution complex most of them have. It's the age of social media. The rest of us get it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Fair enough. I have no problem with someone praying as publicly as they want so long as they are not coercing others to do so, and I think that should be constitutionally protected.
(though I do wonder if we'd see a similar level of support from Christians if this was instead a Muslim coach doing his Maghrib Salah or Isha Salah on the 50 yard line.... I suspect the reaction would be a bit different)
I just find it entertaining to see them behave just like Jesus told them not to behave, praying in order to be seen. Performative prayer seems to be more and more common in Western Christianity. May be linked to Western Christianity's persecution complex in some way.Last edited by NorrinRadd; 06-28-2022, 01:01 AM.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostFine with me, as long as he doesn't conclude it with "Death to infidels!" or something similar."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Bruh, he literally is going around doing photo ops.
Do you know enough about him or even about Christianity to make the call?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
Fine with me, as long as he doesn't conclude it with "Death to infidels!" or something similar.
I'm not entirely comfortable with it, but that may be partly because I'm not by nature a demonstrative person. As others have noted, while one could view this as running afoul of Matt. 6:5-6, others can at least as legitimately see it as obeying Matt. 5:14-16. IIRC, you were a Christian, so you are well aware that we run into "tensions" and paradoxes (I feel like that should be "paradoces") often. My favorite is Prov. 26:4-5.
(Why not paradii?)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Jesus was preaching against hypocrisy and false humility, not about praying in public. Jesus prayed in public several times in the bible. As does every preacher in every church everywhere since the start of Christianity.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJesus was preaching against hypocrisy and false humility, not about praying in public. Jesus prayed in public several times in the bible. As does every preacher in every church everywhere since the start of Christianity.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Bruh, he literally is going around doing photo ops.
But him praying in public or private is his constitutional right. Heck even if he were a complete hypocrite and praying in public to Satan himself, it would still be his constitutional right. Him being a Christian has nothing to do with it.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
Fine with me, as long as he doesn't conclude it with "Death to infidels!" or something similar.
I'm not entirely comfortable with it, but that may be partly because I'm not by nature a demonstrative person. As others have noted, while one could view this as running afoul of Matt. 6:5-6, others can at least as legitimately see it as obeying Matt. 5:14-16. IIRC, you were a Christian, so you are well aware that we run into "tensions" and paradoxes (I feel like that should be "paradoces") often. My favorite is Prov. 26:4-5.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
To what purpose? Is the intent to promote Christian values (whether or not he has accurately assessed Christian values), or to indulge in self-aggrandisement?
Do you know enough about him or even about Christianity to make the call?
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