Famous "Christian" Francis Collins

[oxmixmudd]

Aw, how cute, thanks for further confirming I'm right.

You see what you want to see. And reality is, you don't have an objective iron in this fire. You'd be quite happy to have a prominent scientist who is vocal about faith in God be shown in some way corrupt.

The reality is mm is seeing non-existant daemons of his own distorted mind's making.

[Gondwanaland]

You see what you want to see. And reality is, you don't have an objective iron in this fire. You'd be quite happy to have a prominent scientist who is vocal about faith in God be shown in some way corrupt.

The reality is mm is seeing non-existant daemons of his own distorted mind's making.

I couldn't give a flying fart about a scientist's religion of choice. I do quite enjoy, however, watching you squirm around and make up accusations about 'slander', about something that is literally in evidence. But then, your previous post sounded suspiciously as if you, a Christian, were telling me to commit suicide, so.....

[Mountain Man]

Ah - so the evidence supporting your claims is a conspiracy theory.




Feel free to carry on.

Not a conspiracy at all. The governing bodies that issue medical licenses threatened doctors if they publicly contradicted the state approved messaging.

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...mation-license

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...anel-says.html

With that threat hanging over their heads, how many do you think are willing to risk their practice by putting the lie to the "safe and effective" narrative?

[Mountain Man]

I realize you will never do the honorable thing here and apologize for your libel of an upright and good man, a Christian man as well who has not only confessed his faith publicly many times when he could just as easily kept it hidden, but who has written several books making apologetic cases for faith, and faith in light of science.

You seem to have mistaken "Christian" for "perfect human being". I don't question the guy's profession of faith, but the fact is, he screwed up when he openly mocked those who have good reason for not getting the vaccine.

[oxmixmudd]

I couldn't give a flying fart about a scientist's religion of choice. I do quite enjoy, however, watching you squirm around and make up accusations about 'slander', about something that is literally in evidence. But then, your previous post sounded suspiciously as if you, a Christian, were telling me to commit suicide, so.....

yourself. You're just a bored child looking for a fight, and I've no inclination to give you what you are looking for

[oxmixmudd]

... I don't question the guy's profession of faith, but the fact is, he screwed up when he openly mocked those who have good reason for not getting the vaccine.

The fact is you screwed up when you tried to paint his comments as some sort of open mocking. Likely projection on your part.

And there is no good reason for most people to avoid getting the vaccine.

[Gondwanaland]

yourself. You're just a bored child looking for a fight, and I've no inclination to give you what you are looking for

I see, not even a denial of your TROO Christian decision to tell someone to commit suicide. Very telling. Also tells me a lot more about Collins if he's a person you wish to declare to us as "an upright and good man, a Christian man"

So in review, we have an upright Christian man who was laughing about people losing their livelihoods and ability to provide for their families, being defended by an amazing and great Christian poster who tells other people to kill themselves.

[tabibito]

Not a conspiracy at all. The governing bodies that issue medical licenses threatened doctors if they publicly contradicted the state approved messaging.

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...mation-license

A large part of that article concerns action taken against a doctor for failing to adhere to guidelines re covid, and who was already on probation for a previous infraction - using an unapproved drug to treat breast cancer and not following up with examinations. That information was supplied to demonstrate the need for the rules to be put in place. GPs are not licenced to conduct experiments on patients for good reason.

Other doctors were also mentioned:

The hydroxychloroquine craze last year, in which an antimalarial drug was touted as a “cure” for COVID-19, was touched off by claims made by a French physician with an elite following. Before the drug was proved to be useless for the purpose, the theme was picked up by President Trump and Mehmet Oz, a doctor with a huge broadcast following.

I do believe that Trump backed away from that one when it was shown to be bogus, but can't be certain.

[oxmixmudd]

I see, not even a denial of your TROO Christian decision to tell someone to commit suicide. Very telling. Also tells me a lot more about Collins if he's a person you wish to declare to us as "an upright and good man, a Christian man"

can we really ascribe true humanity to a Troll? Interesting question. Here is another one for you: Is it morally wrong to bankrupt your neighbor in a monopoly game .... hmmm.

[Mountain Man]

...you tried to paint his comments as some sort of open mocking.

“Reality [was] sinking in,” he explained, so that even the “pretty darn resistant” elected to get vaccinated. He then chuckled, “You get the feeling that their resistance was not maybe quite that deeply seated,” and he speculated that deep down, many unvaccinated people may actually want to get the vaccine but resist doing so out of peer pressure. “They’re sort of thinking to themselves, you know, maybe I really should do it, but if I do, I lose my credibility with my peeps,” Collins said.

Not a hint of mockery, right?

Your argument would be somewhat better if you claimed that his denigration was somehow for the greater good, but instead you've gone the irrational route of denying what can be plainly seen by any reasonable person.

[Gondwanaland]

can we really ascribe true humanity to a Troll? Interesting question. Here is another one for you: Is it morally wrong to bankrupt your neighbor in a monopoly game .... hmmm.

Thank you, for continuing to show us upright Christian behavior, how Christians are to behave toward others: laugh at people for losing their livelihoods, and tell other people to commit suicide when they disagree with you. Such great Troo Christianity on display.

[tabibito]

Yes, trying to prevent needless deaths is a Christian thing to do. Here he is speculating that peer pressure in certain social pockets is contributing to the death toll. Something obvious when one compares covid mortality over time in red counties to blue. (Unfortunately the peer pressure not to be vaccinated is much higher in republican circles than in democratic circles)

The graphs seem to bear that out

[oxmixmudd]

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So in review, we have an upright Christian man who was laughing about people losing their livelihoods and ability to provide for their families, being defended by an amazing and great Christian poster who tells other people to kill themselves.

a fantasy campfire story spun by a Troll. But I'm not on the menu tonight - sorry.

[Gondwanaland]

a fantasy campfire story spun by a Troll. But I'm not on the menu tonight - sorry.

No spinning being done here. Your words are there for everyone to see, Christian.

[oxmixmudd]

No spinning being done here. Your words are there for everyone to see, Christian.

Again - is it immoral to bankrupt your opponent in a monopoly game?