University of Wisconsin stands by 'Problem of Whiteness' course

[Teallaura]

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Which is ridiculous on the face of it. Segregation era racism is explicit and intentional. Systemic racism is implicit and unintentional.

No, on both counts.

[Teallaura]

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Point taken, although I believe that Teal was speaking significantly more strongly than what the course description says here.

Hmm, consciously pushing systemic racism seems quite an awful like apartheid and would then qualify as segregation style racism, no?

I wasn't talking about the course description at all at that point - I was talking about Spart's point which, like your own, pigeon-holes racism. If institutional racism is defined to be unconscious then it isn't racism at all - it's mere preference at best (really really dumb science at worst). Institutions are made up of people - and people generally know their own attitudes and motivations. Institutions merely reflect those.

[Teallaura]

Y'all keep saying it, but I'm not seeing it

Would you question it if the course was titled:"Yellowness and superior technological education"?

You should - defining people by their skin color is a bad thing.

[Sparko]

how ironic. the left scream "racism" at the drop of a hat (or sombrero) unless it is against whites, then they will find any rationalization they can to excuse it and even promote it!

[Darth Executor]

There's also the issue of reverse racism, which this course seems to be a prime example of, atleast if you read the course description.

There's no such thing as reverse racism, racism against white people is just regular racism.

[robrecht]

Would you question it if the course was titled:"Yellowness and superior technological education"?

You should - defining people by their skin color is a bad thing.

I think some of you are totally missing a fundamental point of the course, namely that race is not merely a biological fact but is also a social construct, at least when it is studied from a sociological perspective. The course or professor is decidedly NOT defining people merely by their skin color.

[Spartacus]

Would you question it if the course was titled:"Yellowness and superior technological education"?

You should - defining people by their skin color is a bad thing.

The prof's a postmodernist for whom race is a construct and in whose mind, consequently, Rachel Dolezal actually became black.

[Spartacus]

how ironic. the left scream "racism" at the drop of a hat (or sombrero) unless it is against whites, then they will find any rationalization they can to excuse it and even promote it!

Am I officially part of the "Left" now?

[Spartacus]

Whatever else happens in this thread, I'll call my participation a success: jaecp amen'ed a post in which I called Margaret Sanger a racist

[Darth Executor]

Am I officially part of the "Left" now?

you've been to the left of stalin for years bruh

[Sparko]

Am I officially part of the "Left" now?

seems so.

[Spartacus]

seems so.

If starlight were to say so I'd be offended, but since it's you

[Jaecp]

Whatever else happens in this thread, I'll call my participation a success: jaecp amen'ed a post in which I called Margaret Sanger a racist

My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy

I'll make sure to message you after every Planned Parenthood event I participate in in January ;)

Am I officially part of the "Left" now?

If you focus on the social gospel and kick Paul Ryan's style of economic conservatism that ends up hurting those people to the curb then you'd be perfectly at home with my friend Seamus, Catholic, who chaired my organization in 2014 or Gwen, also Catholic, who is chairing it now.

[Spartacus]

My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy

I'll make sure to message you after every Planned Parenthood event I participate in in January ;)

Yeah well given the rate at which you've been replying I won't hear about it until April anyway.

If you focus on the social gospel and kick Paul Ryan's style of economic conservatism that ends up hurting those people to the curb then you'd be perfectly at home with my friend Seamus, Catholic, who chaired my organization in 2014 or Gwen, also Catholic, who is chairing it now.

Every time a Democrat mentions Paul Ryan, my alarm starts going off.

[Meh Gerbil]

The reason there is no need to fear this class is because reality dooms it and it's adherents to failure.

The moment someone goes through the trouble to actually build something is the moment they begin to look for the best people to do the job. That is going to be a person who doesn't care to explore ridiculous theories regarding skin color. You put money on the table and all the very fine notions about fairness evaporate like a morning mist in the noon day sun.

Only academics and government officials, who aren't actually expected to produce anything for a living, can afford to be so foolish.

I say this because the class cannot produce anything. If your goal is to hire the best people for your business your business is the most likely to succeed. Those who want to muck up the hiring process with white guilt and other nonsense are going to end up hiring people who are less fit for the job. Ultimately those businessmen will either grow up or end up bankrupt. Capitalism is ruthless. The people who are too immature to look past race can go work in government - they'll be overpaid but at least they won't get in the way of people who want to work for a living.