Kyle Rittenhouse...

[Mountain Man]

I don't believe that to be the case, it is just that he does seem to think that he is qualified to throw the first stone.

No, he's naively using those verses as a shield.

[Markus River]

And another one … “people like you”

Yep, another one. A self loathing, virtue signalling race baiter. What did you think I meant?

[Cow Poke]

Just heard a talking head on one of the other channels explaining that the reason Kyle "got off" was because of his expensive lawyers.

Apparently, he doesn't know that, in a claim of self-defense, the burden is entirely on the prosecution, not the defense, and it was the prosecution's own star witness who appears to have "turned the tide" toward reasonable doubt.

[tabibito]

Just heard a talking head on one of the other channels explaining that the reason Kyle "got off" was because of his expensive lawyers.

Apparently, he doesn't know that, in a claim of self-defense, the burden is entirely on the prosecution, not the defense, and it was the prosecution's own star witness who appears to have "turned the tide" toward reasonable doubt.

I'm trying to work out where a need for reasonable doubt might have arisen.

[Cow Poke]

I'm trying to work out where a need for reasonable doubt might have arisen.

Yeah, that's kinda.... the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused did NOT meet the self-defense claim requirements.

If they could prove, for example, that he actually shot people who were NOT attacking him, or that his social media showed an intent to go there to make trouble, or any of the other things the prosecution tried in vain to claim -- like "he was an 'active shooter'".

[rogue06]

And for the question that nobody seems to want to ask...

WHEN IS GAIGE GROSSKREUTZ GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE?

[firstfloor]

And for the question that nobody seems to want to ask...

WHEN IS GAIGE GROSSKREUTZ GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE?

I hear that a civil lawsuit has been filed against Kyle. Maybe Kyle will counter-sue. This very bad idea of his will play out for a long time yet. He might pay for it by becoming a Fox News host, and sell guns on television, or something.

[Cow Poke]

I hear that a civil lawsuit has been filed against Kyle. Maybe Kyle will counter-sue. This very bad idea of his will play out for a long time yet. He might pay for it by becoming a Fox News host, and sell guns on television, or something.

A civil suit is definitely possible - you can sue just about anybody for anything in the US. HOWEVER, you have to find a lawyer who believes you have at least a snowball's chance in the hot place, and the rules of evidence are completely different.

The "scumbag" factor of those shot would be fair game.

[Roy]

A civil suit is definitely possible - you can sue just about anybody for anything in the US. HOWEVER, you have to find a lawyer who believes you have at least a snowball's chance in the hot place...

... or have enough money to pay one who doesn't.

[rogue06]

I hear that a civil lawsuit has been filed against Kyle. Maybe Kyle will counter-sue. This very bad idea of his will play out for a long time yet. He might pay for it by becoming a Fox News host, and sell guns on television, or something.

They actually found a lawyer that would take the case? Someone else must be footing the bill as no halfway decent lawyer^[1] would do so based on a contingency. They would want to get paid.

Do you really think Grosskreutz will get a job on Fox? CNN, MSNBC... sure. But Fox?






1. Well, there's a couple of guys who might be willing...

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[Cow Poke]

They actually found a lawyer that would take the case? Someone else must be footing the bill as no halfway decent lawyer^[1] would do so based on a contingency. They would want to get paid.


1. Well, there's a couple of guys who might be willing...

It comes from the "Mile High (for several reasons) City".

Denver Attorney Files Civil Action In Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting

“A criminal case and civil case are different, but we are reaching for larger questions,” he told CBS4’s Rick Sallinger in an interview before testimony in the criminal trial began.

His clients are the family of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of those who died as well as Gaige Grosskreutz who was wounded by Rittenhouse’s gun. He has already filed a lawsuit against Kenosha authorities and its police.

Schwab said he will raise questions, “How did the police respond? Were the police too cozy with vigilantes walking the streets enforcing their own justice?”

Although acquitted, Rittenhouse could face civil action, and he could file defamation lawsuits himself.

It doesn't sound like the suit is against Rittenhouse, but against the authorities. Maybe they didn't try hard enough to stop the looters, rioters and arsonists from being there?

[Cow Poke]

They actually found a lawyer that would take the case? Someone else must be footing the bill as no halfway decent lawyer^[1] would do so based on a contingency. They would want to get paid.

Do you really think Grosskreutz will get a job on Fox? CNN, MSNBC... sure. But Fox?






1. Well, there's a couple of guys who might be willing...

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Did you intend for the gun expert to be aiming his gun at his buddy?

[rogue06]

Did you intend for the gun expert to be aiming his gun at his buddy?

YES

[Sparko]

... or have enough money to pay one who doesn't.

In most such cases the lawyers work on contingency. Meaning they only get paid if you win and they get a percentage (usually around 30-35%) of the payout or settlement.

[Sparko]

It comes from the "Mile High (for several reasons) City".

Denver Attorney Files Civil Action In Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting

“A criminal case and civil case are different, but we are reaching for larger questions,” he told CBS4’s Rick Sallinger in an interview before testimony in the criminal trial began.

His clients are the family of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of those who died as well as Gaige Grosskreutz who was wounded by Rittenhouse’s gun. He has already filed a lawsuit against Kenosha authorities and its police.

Schwab said he will raise questions, “How did the police respond? Were the police too cozy with vigilantes walking the streets enforcing their own justice?”

Although acquitted, Rittenhouse could face civil action, and he could file defamation lawsuits himself.

It doesn't sound like the suit is against Rittenhouse, but against the authorities. Maybe they didn't try hard enough to stop the looters, rioters and arsonists from being there?

So they are going to argue that police should have arrested Rosenbaum and Grosskreutz, so they wouldn't have been shot?