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Bow-and-arrow killings in Norway seen as an ‘act of terror’
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I simply [and once again] pointed out the facts pertaining to what you wrote which was quite clearly a sweeping generalisation.
Unless of course you seriously consider that households like those of Fred and Rose West or Josef and Rosemarie Fritzl positively contributed [by the fact that both were "two parent" households] to being the "SINGLE biggest determining factor in the future success of" their respective "children".
Now, back to the bow and arrow killer.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
The Norwegian prison systems tend to have far better results than ours, as far as recidivism rates, returning people Successfully to society to be Is a benefit to said society
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Which shows you either trolled, or you failed to understand what a factor is. Given that you refused to answer the question about cigarette smoking being the single biggest factor in cancer, I'm certain you understood the concept and were just trying to sow discord. This is why I say you are not honest in your interactions with others.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostExcept it wasn't. Which makes the irony I mentioned all the greater
Yet again you make the irony greater by showing you don't have a bloody clue what the term means. How pathetic.
Now, back to the bow and arrow killer."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Serial killers should never be returned to society. They should rot in a dank prison cell. They shouldn't live in a comfortable "hotel" room.
Why do we incarcerate such people? Is it purely for punishment? Or should there be an attempt to rehabilitate the offender? Not necessarily in order to release them back into society but to help with their health issues and recognise the enormity of their offences.
There is also the issue of what causes a person to become a serial killer as no one would point to a new born baby and predict it would up to perpetrate such crimes. How much is nurture or nature? Is there an underlying predisposition that chaotic and/or abusive experiences bring to the fore? Or do chaotic and abusive experiences push some people into doing terrible things?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI'm considering them, and noting that most of the examples given do not involve more fatalities than the deadliest US mass shootings.
Your source has reached the wrong conclusion. Bombings, mass stabbings, and car attacks rarely kill more people than the deadliest mass shootings in the United States.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
This is like saying we shouldn't exterminate a termite infestation because it won't get rid of the cockroaches.
A) You're not going to get rid of all the guns in the US
2) You're not going to keep guns out of then hands of the people who want to do evil
C) If somebody is determined to kill multiple people, there are other options available
Your analogy stinks on so many levels.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Do you sincerely believe that?
Why do we incarcerate such people? Is it purely for punishment? Or should there be an attempt to rehabilitate the offender? Not necessarily in order to release them back into society but to help with their health issues and recognise the enormity of their offences.
There is also the issue of what causes a person to become a serial killer as no one would point to a new born baby and predict it would up to perpetrate such crimes. How much is nurture or nature? Is there an underlying predisposition that chaotic and/or abusive experiences bring to the fore? Or do chaotic and abusive experiences push some people into doing terrible things?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I once again note a display of marked ignorance towards the basics of English grammar. However, back to the atrocity in Norway. It seems probable that the suspect had mental issues prior to conversion.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
We incarcerate them to remove them from society so they can't continue to kill people.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostAnd they deserve punishment for their crimes because they are evil.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Serial killers should never be returned to society. They should rot in a dank prison cell. They shouldn't live in a comfortable "hotel" room.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
You just don't know how to quit digging your hole. SMH
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
The US prison system is abysmal and a large reason for the crime problem we have today. The Scandinavian system (Norway and other Scandinavian countries) are far superior .The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostShould we not try to understand the motives behind their crimes and what experiences they had? For example, it is sometimes the way that paedophiles have themselves been abused as children. There is therefore an element of victimhood for them.
That is too simplistic. We are not divided into good and evil. Human beings are far more complicated than that.
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