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    Sometimes I just get so bone-numbingly weary of seeing bad cops.

    This 18 year old girl (mother of a 5 month old), was apparently in some sort of fight with someone else, not on school property, but in a parking lot. Somehow this school resource officer decided to pull into the lot and get involved. The fight stopped. No one was armed. The SRO threatened to pepper spray the girl and the other girl she was fighting. The girl, her boyfriend, and his brother, got into their car, and drove off. After they were past the officer, he fired two shots in the back of their moving vehicle, and struck the girl in the back of the head. SHe was taken to the hospital, but is considered brain dead, and is supposed to be taken off of life support today.

    This man should not be allowed near a gun, nor pepper spray, nor children or teens, for the rest of his life, and charged with at least negligent homicide. There's simply no excuse that can justify his actions.


    Two young women were fighting in a parking lot Monday afternoon when a safety officer for a nearby Southern California high school pulled his car into the lot to see what was going on.


    Shortly after he got out of his vehicle, several people believed to be involved in the physical altercation tried to speed away in a sedan, according to authorities. But as the car took off, the Long Beach Unified School District officer began shooting, according to a video of the incident posted to social media.


    One of the women involved in the fight, Mona Rodriguez, 18, is now brain dead after the school safety officer fired his gun twice at the car and struck her in the back of the head, her family’s attorney told The Washington Post. Rodriguez, the mother of a 5-month-old boy, was expected to be taken off life support on Thursday afternoon.










    “The officer took it upon himself to whip out his gun and start shooting at a moving vehicle,” Michael Carrillo, the attorney for Rodriguez’s family, told The Post. “There’s absolutely no justification for what he did.”



    Her family and loved ones are calling for justice against the officer, who has not been arrested nor publicly identified by police. Chris Eftychiou, a spokesperson with the Long Beach Unified School District, told The Post that the officer is on paid administrative leave pending an investigation. Long Beach Police Department spokesman Brandon Fahey said the agency is leading the investigation, and the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office is conducting its own independent probe.



    “I just want him in jail, bro,” Rafeul Chowdhury, 20, Rodriguez’s boyfriend and the father of the couple’s son, said in a news conference Wednesday. “I want him in jail for what he did to my girlfriend. She did not deserve it.” Chowdhury, who was driving the car at the time of the shooting, added, “I don’t know what to do with my 5-month-old son.”



    Superintendent Jill Baker did not immediately respond to a request for comment early Thursday. In a statement Tuesday, Baker said she had a “heavy heart” over the shooting that took place near Millikan High School. She also defended the training of the school safety officers in a district that makes it standard practice for them to carry firearms.



    “Our school safety officers are hired to protect the physical safety of our staff and students on and around campuses. They are highly trained and held accountable to the established standards in their profession,” she said. “Those standards will be used to assess the incident that occurred.”



    Carrillo said a shooting that’s left an 18-year-old mother brain dead is more than enough evidence of how “having armed school safety officers at a high school is just a bad idea.”




    “Clearly, the training was improper,” he said. “If he was trained properly, he would not have shot into a moving vehicle as it was driving off.”



    The shooting comes amid a period in which billions of dollars have already been spent hardening public schools in an attempt to make students safer from gun violence. The debate over how to make the nation’s schools safer against mass shootings, and whether safety officers should be armed, has gone on for years — even as researchers have found no evidence that the increased measures work.



    The use of school safety officers has been met with significant pushback following the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis and the push for police reform in some parts of the country. The city of Long Beach even vowed to work with the school district to “reduce the use of school police and review alternative models” in the aftermath of Floyd’s murder. School systems in Los Angeles and Oakland have already moved to reduce or eliminate the use of school police.


    Police told The Post that Rodriguez was involved in a fight with a 15-year-old woman in a street near Millikan High School. It’s believed the two know each other and that Rodriguez initiated the encounter, police said, but it’s unclear what prompted the physical altercation.



    There’s no evidence of either woman being armed at the time of the fight, according to authorities. Police have not publicly identified the 20-year-old and 16-year-old men who they say were also involved, but Chowdhury and his brother, Shahriear, have said they were there. Their level of participation remains under investigation, police said.



    At around 3 p.m., the officer left his vehicle at the area of Spring Street and Palo Verde Avenue in response to the fight. When Rodriguez, Chowdhury and his brother attempted to flee from the official in a sedan, “the school safety officer approached the vehicle,” police said.




    Seconds after the car sped off — nearly hitting the officer — he reached for his gun and fired off two shots at the vehicle. Bystanders on the video can be heard gasping at the shooting, and a woman is screaming in terror in the immediate aftermath.



    “Oh that was a real gun?!” one man said, according to the video. “That was a real gun!”



    A separate video taken of the incident shows one person reacting in real time to the officer pulling out his gun: “No! Get down!”



    When police responded to the incident a few minutes later, officers found that Rodriguez had been shot. Shahriear Chowdhury, who was sitting in the rear passenger seat, said at a news conference that two bullets went through the car.





    “One of the bullets went through the door, I could have been shot in the rib,” he said. “The other went through the window where it got Mona.”




    Long Beach police soon determined that the school safety officer “had discharged their firearm, striking a female adult in the upper body,” Fahey told The Post. Long Beach Fire Department responded to the scene and soon transported Rodriguez to a hospital in critical condition.



    The family was notified on Wednesday by doctors at Long Beach Medical Center that Rodriguez was brain dead and would be removed from life support within 24 hours, Carrillo said. Oscar Rodriguez, Mona’s brother, told reporters that it should be the family’s decision whether to stop life support.





    “They’re trying to take my sister away,” he said at a news conference. “At first they told me that I would be able to make the decision, and now they’re taking that away from me.”



    In a statement, a hospital spokesperson said privacy laws prohibit officials from releasing any patient information. However, the representative noted that under California law, two physicians must independently conclude that a patient has suffered a permanent loss of brain function with no possibility of recovery. At that time, relatives are notified and “provided a period of accommodation to afford the family time to grieve and gather loved ones.”


    A GoFundMe created by Rodriguez’s family to help with funeral and legal expenses notes the love she had for her young son, Isael. She’s remembered by her family as “smart, beautiful, loving.”





    “We are all heartbroken and in pain,” the fundraiser page says. “Never did we imagine we would [lose] her like this or so soon. [S]he had her entire life ahead of her and because of a careless act done by a school safety guard, a 5-month-old baby boy was left without a mother.”



    The family is pushing for criminal charges to be brought against the unidentified school safety officer, and they are expected to file a federal civil rights lawsuit against him and the school district, Carrillo said. The attorney marveled at the strength of Rodriguez’s family this week.



    “They haven’t left her bedside,” he said.





    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...icer-shooting/
    An 18-year-old woman will be taken off life support after she was shot in the head by a school safety officer, her family says.

    Mona Rodriguez, a mother of a 5-month-old son, was in the passenger seat of a car at a school in California’s Long Beach, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles, when the officer opened fire.

    Moments earlier, Ms Rodriguez was involved in a fight with a 15-year-old girl at Millikan High School, police said.




    Cell phone footage shows the vehicle driving in the school car park, almost hitting the officer, before two shots were fired on Monday, 27 September.

    Rafeul Chowdhury, 20, said he was driving the car while his girlfriend, Ms Rodriguez, was in the passenger seat and his brother, 16-year-old Shahriear Chowdhury, was in the back.

    Mr Chowdhury said Ms Rodriguez and the 15-year-old girl had been fighting but that they stopped after the school safety officer intervened and threatened to pepper spray them both.

    “All we did is just got in the car and left,” Mr Chowdhury told KTLA5. “He never told us to stop anytime soon, and the way he shot us, it wasn’t right.”

    The school safety officer has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation into the use of lethal force, authorities said.

    Long Beach Unified Superintendent Jill Baker said the district’s officers are highly trained and are “held accountable to the established standards in their profession”.

    Family on Wednesday said that Ms Rodriguez was left braindead and was not expected to survive.

    The hospital said she would take her off life support within 24-hours, according to the family’s attorney, with brother Oscar Rodriguez saying that decision should be made by the family, KTLA5 reports.

    “They’re trying to take my sister away. At first they told me that I would be able to make the decision, and now they’re taking that away from me,” Mr Rodriguez said.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1930140.html

  • #2
    Don't know what happened but this bit

    Cell phone footage shows the vehicle driving in the school car park, almost hitting the officer, before two shots were fired


    This could be the reason he shot. You'll have to ask someone like myth or Cow Poke what the protocol is for shooting at a car that you think tried to run you down after it had passed by is. Especially one full of people.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Don't know what happened but this bit

      Cell phone footage shows the vehicle driving in the school car park, almost hitting the officer, before two shots were fired


      This could be the reason he shot. You'll have to ask someone like myth or Cow Poke what the protocol is for shooting at a car that you think tried to run you down after it had passed by is. Especially one full of people.
      He fired after the car was past him and posed no danger to him. There's no excuse for that. None. And if you watch the video, it clearly deliberately goes around him so as to not hit him.

      BTW, it's been NYC policy, for example, for 45 years not to do so, unless the driver has a gun and is actively firing at police (if they're, of all cities, intelligent enough to ban it, anyone still doing it should be ashamed of themselves). Why? Because it's likely to hit innocent people, and unlikely to cause the 4,000 pound vehicle to stop as it's unlikely to even hit the driver let alone cause them to stop. And if they do get lucky and hit the driver and kill or even just injure them, it's highly possible their foot will stay/push harder on the gas, leading to an out of control speeding up vehicle that puts everyone at risk.
      Last edited by Gondwanaland; 09-30-2021, 09:35 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

        He fired after the car was past him and posed no danger to him. There's no excuse for that. None. And if you watch the video, it clearly deliberately goes around him so as to not hit him.

        BTW, it's been NYC policy, for example, for 45 years not to do so, unless the driver has a gun and is actively firing at police (if they're, of all cities, intelligent enough to ban it, anyone still doing it should be ashamed of themselves). Why? Because it's likely to hit innocent people, and unlikely to cause the 4,000 pound vehicle to stop as it's unlikely to even hit the driver let alone cause them to stop. And if they do get lucky and hit the driver and kill or even just injure them, it's highly possible their foot will stay/push harder on the gas, leading to an out of control speeding up vehicle that puts everyone at risk.
        IF, and that's a big if, he believed the driver was trying to hit him, are you saying that if someone tried to hit and possibly kill an officer, then the officer is supposed to just stand there and do nothing if they missed?

        As I said, I'd like for someone familiar with protocol to join in.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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        • #5
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Don't know what happened but this bit

          Cell phone footage shows the vehicle driving in the school car park, almost hitting the officer, before two shots were fired


          This could be the reason he shot. You'll have to ask someone like myth or Cow Poke what the protocol is for shooting at a car that you think tried to run you down after it had passed by is. Especially one full of people.
          First, most jurisdictions are moving away from shooting at fleeing vehicles.
          Generally, there needs to be a reasonable belief that the person driving the fleeing vehicle has committed a FELONY, and is likely to cause more death or destruction if not stopped.
          The use of deadly force against a person who poses no immediate threat to the officer or those in his protection is highly suspect.

          Given the facts, this looks like a very bad shooting, and the cop should probably be charged with the death.

          Again, there are at least two sides to every story, but given the facts as presented...
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            IF, and that's a big if, he believed the driver was trying to hit him, are you saying that if someone tried to hit and possibly kill an officer, then the officer is supposed to just stand there and do nothing if they missed?
            He should call for assistance with a description of the fleeing vehicle, but absolutely should not fire.

            The basic rule of thumb is this....
            Is the officer using greater force than would be used against the subject if arrested and tried?
            Meaning - he used deadly force, which would never be the sentence if the person were actually tried for whatever offense they committed.

            The rule is "to use only sufficient force as is necessary to effect the arrest".

            As I said, I'd like for someone familiar with protocol to join in.
            Yeah, so far, I see zero justification for firing his weapon.



            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              What is the officer's name? I would like to do a search on other stories on it.

              It's hard to make a judgment based just on that story and the video. We can't see what was going on in the car. Could someone in the car have had a gun, for example?

              based just on what we can see it looks bad for the officer.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                What is the officer's name? I would like to do a search on other stories on it.

                It's hard to make a judgment based just on that story and the video. We can't see what was going on in the car. Could someone in the car have had a gun, for example?

                based just on what we can see it looks bad for the officer.
                Yeah, that's why I purposely left "given the facts as presented" as my out.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  What is the officer's name? I would like to do a search on other stories on it.

                  It's hard to make a judgment based just on that story and the video. We can't see what was going on in the car. Could someone in the car have had a gun, for example?

                  based just on what we can see it looks bad for the officer.
                  So far, everything I see says the officer is not named, and is on suspension pending...

                  The officer, who has not been identified, is on paid administrative leave, as is protocol after a shooting, Long Beach Unified School District officials said.

                  District spokesman Chris Eftychiou said it is standard practice for school safety officers to carry firearms.


                  Something strange in that second sentence though --- it sounds to me like these are not commissioned peace officers, but "school safety officers" who are allowed to carry firearms.

                  In our schools in Texas, the school district will work with the local police department to hire (or subsidize) duly commissioned police officers to serve at the schools during school hours.

                  This almost sounds like private security guards who are allowed to carry guns.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    So far, everything I see says the officer is not named, and is on suspension pending...

                    The officer, who has not been identified, is on paid administrative leave, as is protocol after a shooting, Long Beach Unified School District officials said.

                    District spokesman Chris Eftychiou said it is standard practice for school safety officers to carry firearms.


                    Something strange in that second sentence though --- it sounds to me like these are not commissioned peace officers, but "school safety officers" who are allowed to carry firearms.

                    In our schools in Texas, the school district will work with the local police department to hire (or subsidize) duly commissioned police officers to serve at the schools during school hours.

                    This almost sounds like private security guards who are allowed to carry guns.
                    That was the way it was when I went to school. We called them "rent-a-cops"

                    But I'm pretty sure they didn't carry a weapon -- even pepper spray.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      That was the way it was when I went to school. We called them "rent-a-cops"

                      But I'm pretty sure they didn't carry a weapon -- even pepper spray.
                      So, an obvious question to me would be - do these SRO individuals have the same training as commissioned peace officers?

                      I'll keep digging.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        IF, and that's a big if, he believed the driver was trying to hit him, are you saying that if someone tried to hit and possibly kill an officer, then the officer is supposed to just stand there and do nothing if they missed?

                        As I said, I'd like for someone familiar with protocol to join in.
                        Correct. If the person is driving away, there is no reason to be firing. The officer is not in imminent danger, and clearly was not. He doesn't get to get "revenge" because he thinks someone tried to hit him.
                        Last edited by Gondwanaland; 10-01-2021, 09:15 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          He should call for assistance with a description of the fleeing vehicle, but absolutely should not fire.

                          The basic rule of thumb is this....
                          Is the officer using greater force than would be used against the subject if arrested and tried?
                          Meaning - he used deadly force, which would never be the sentence if the person were actually tried for whatever offense they committed.

                          The rule is "to use only sufficient force as is necessary to effect the arrest".

                          Yeah, so far, I see zero justification for firing his weapon.
                          LA Times confirms the policy....

                          According to a use-of-force policy from Long Beach Unified’s school safety office, officers are not permitted to fire at a moving vehicle. Firearms may be discharged only when reasonably necessary and justified under the circumstances, such as self-defense and the protection of others, the policy states. The policy also bars shooting at fleeing suspects.

                          Chris Eftychiou, a spokesman for the Long Beach Unified School District, said the school district was “carefully reviewing multiple aspects” while cooperating with the Long Beach Police Department, which is working with the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office on an investigation into the shooting.

                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                            Correct. If the person is driving away, there is no reason to be firing. The officer is not in imminent danger, and clearly was not. He doesn't get to get "revenge" because he thinks someone tried to hit him.
                            Well if someone actually tried to run down a police officer (I don't see that as what happened here though) then it would be attempted murder and the car would be a deadly weapon, not so a fist. So it would be no different than if someone took a shot at a police officer and ran way with the gun. The officer would be correct in trying to stop the driver from getting away. He has shown he is willing to use his car as a deadly weapon and attempted murder is a felony.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Well if someone actually tried to run down a police officer (I don't see that as what happened here though) then it would be attempted murder and the car would be a deadly weapon, not so a fist. So it would be no different than if someone took a shot at a police officer and ran way with the gun. The officer would be correct in trying to stop the driver from getting away. He has shown he is willing to use his car as a deadly weapon and attempted murder is a felony.
                              It's a little more complicated than that, as this is one of the murkiest points of the use of deadly force.

                              The purpose of the use of deadly force is to stop the crime in progress.
                              Remember, it's "shoot to stop" not "shoot to kill".

                              Shooting at a fleeing suspect is no longer "stopping the action in progress", like shooting somebody who is trying to shoot you.

                              It's complicated by the fact that shooting at a fleeing vehicle has other implications....
                              • other occupants in the vehicle who may not be guilty of any crime
                              • pedestrians who may be hit or killed if the driver is disabled, making the vehicle a 3,000lb weapon
                              • the possibility that you may shoot innocent people while shooting at the fleeing vehicle
                              On the other hand, if you have reason to believe that the person is armed, and is on a mission to go shoot up a school or something, the risks above may be mitigated by the fact that you are actually preventing a felony from happening.

                              It really is complicated.



                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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