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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I am not but I think your pal got confused. I referred to the Kielce pogrom and he seemed to think Poland was under German occupation in 1946.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI am not but I think your pal got confused. I referred to the Kielce pogrom and he seemed to think Poland was under German occupation in 1946.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLast I checked, Auschwitz and Treblinka were in occupied Poland, and both were controlled by your people.
And I note you tried to divert attention away from Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenburg and others in the so-called Greater German Reich.
You really are showing what a dishonest little you can be.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Postdeleted
Now, here is the exchange you grossly misrepresent (I think that's your spiritual gift )
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostThe following textual examples via a great many intermediates sources and individuals over 1900 years led right to the gates of Auschwitz and Treblinka.Originally posted by Cow PokeBy your people, no?Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostBy Christian countries.
And I note you tried to divert attention away from Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenburg and others in the so-called Greater German Reich.
Anything there about 1946?
Anything there about the Kielce pogrom?
I await your apology.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Unless he could press it to serve his own ends.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Probably something really stupid, so
Now, here is the exchange you grossly misrepresent (I think that's your spiritual gift )
Last I checked, Auschwitz and Treblinka were in occupied Poland, and both were controlled by your people.
And I note you tried to divert attention away from Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenburg and others in the so-called Greater German Reich.
Anything there about 1946?
Anything there about the Kielce pogrom?
I await your apology."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostExactly. Christianity was just something to distort as needed in order to better exploit it until its usefulness had been served.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
In the ordinary course, Ioudaios referred to a native of Judaea (or at least someone who called Judaea home).
And where exactly is the first century source material to substantiate that contention?
Do you imagine Philo of Alexandria and his Alexandrian religious brethren did not consider themselves to be Jews? What about the Jews of various other Eastern Roman provinces? Or the Jews of the city of Rome?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Interesting - I've always known "errant" to be like somebody who lost their way, or was on a bad path.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostYou have already demonstrated that aren't going to take seriously anything that I, or any other Christian, might post, and you declare/imply that almost anything that a Christian might have to say is peurile. Given that I respond to your posts, it should be obvious to you that I find your opinion of me to be a matter of profound insignificance.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostNo more than it would have amazed Paul.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostWhen Paul's teaching was read through eyes trained to such philosophies as Stoicism, such misunderstandings are inevitable.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostThe religion originated in first century Judaea, not a particularly Hellenised corner of the world, except in a few minority quarters.
Galilee [from where Jesus originated] remained [except for cities such as Tiberias and Sepphoris] largely untouched by Greek influence, particularly in small towns and the countryside.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostPaul, by his own account, conformed with the teachings of the Pharisees.
What Paul was teaching were his own religious concepts not the original Jewish eschatological and ethical teachings of Jesus of Nazareth
Originally posted by tabibito View PostThat teaching was intransigently opposed to Hellenisation. His own writings show how thoroughly he opposed synchretism, whether from Jew or Gentile.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostThat is an implicit claim that my religion is based on the teachings of the fourth Century church.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostMy response is not a deflection - it addresses the false claim. The teachings of the fourth century church are relevant only to the extent that they can be verified by scripture.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostA substantial proportion of those teachings are in fact refuted by scripture.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostBeginning with Kitamori and Moltmann, that claim has gained enough ground to have become a minority
Originally posted by tabibito View PostYou really believe there is a connection?
Originally posted by tabibito View PostWhen those correlations are examined, they are found to be not causations. Superficial similarities, but the details are radically different.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostCelibate monasticism never enjoyed a widespread popularity in the early Churches.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostAugustine? Suddenly a fourth/fifth century theologian is relevant to a discussion of what Paul himself wrote and meant? Augustine was one of those who claimed that deeper theological matters could not be resolved on the basis of scripture, and much of his theology was rejected by the Eastern Churches
Originally posted by tabibito View PostNor the male come to that - your interpretation of the text is governed by your prejudice. ; - lustful passion - in context, is a matter of taking what one wants without regard for anyone else.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostI expect to find precisely that which is found. It did come as a shock when I first realised what it was saying, but after a day or so of reflection, it found that it should have been expected on the basis of the New Testament record.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostAgreed times to not have sex. Set times for fasting, so to speak, leaves open any other time for eating or not eating according to the person's (or in this case, the couple's) wishes. You read Paul's writing through a lens that won't allow you to see his intent.
Originally posted by tabibito View PostInterpretation is involved in any communication, whether written or verbal, or simply by signal. There is more difficulty when translations are involved, but a hostile or overly sympathetic reading will guarantee a flawed interpretation even when the writing is in the reader's mother tongue.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
I'd heard the old term, "knight errant," but never really pondered what it meant.
Some it appears have never read [?heard of?] Spencer, Cervantes, or de Troyes.
Although anyone familiar with Python's Holy Grail movie would surely have some idea."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI will take what you write seriously if you set aside your preconceived notions and critically examine the factual evidence contained within these NT texts.
Considering you present yourself as having some acquaintance with the Greek language might I suggest you go back to the original texts and examine the Greek terms that Paul actually employs.
Paul wrote a couple of millennia ago in Koine Greek, and you insist on imposing modern English definitions on what he wrote, with the most unfavourable nuances that you can devise.
1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostDeeper, deeper, down the rathole we go............
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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