"go, sell all that you have and give to the poor..."

[Mountain Man]

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As you immediately used school-yard tactics and started referring to his family name to Pervert and described him as a "third rate scholar" in that post your excuse is rather feeble.

Of course you dismiss his scholarship as you would the work of any academic that challenges your preconceived beliefs. That Pervo had also been convicted of owning child pornography merely add the prurient cherry on the cake for you.

I didn't dismiss Richards Pervert's so-called scholarship. On the contrary, I presented a very specific argument against his claims, primarily his apparent ignorance of first century culture and unfamiliarity with high context societies.

And really, you're not going to own up to the fact that you tried to dismiss Pervert's proclivities as "not really pornography" and something that wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in Europe? The limb you went out on was thin and broke almost instantly.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I didn't dismiss Richards Pervert's so-called scholarship. On the contrary, I presented a very specific argument against his claims, primarily his apparent ignorance of first century culture

What exactly is "first century culture" and what precisely are "high context societies"?
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And really, you're not going to own up to the fact that you tried to dismiss Pervert's proclivities as "not really pornography"

I do not know what images he had on his computer.

However, I understand that what some people in the USA consider "pornographic" would not be raise much an eyebrow over here.

I cannot imagine a fountain like the Manneken Pis existing in a middle America city.

[Gondwanaland]

As far as you are concerned his academic abilities are discredited

No he's just a mediocre scholar who happened to also be a pervert. Anyone with a brain would have found someone else by now instead of dying on this hill.

because of his later crime. That strikes me as the attitude of a petty individual.

Bigotry if allowed can also lead to some very dark places.

I couldn't care less what you are struck by. If there's anything anyone should be bigoted toward, it's pedophiles who aren't actively seeking psychological treatment and especially those who are collecting imges of children who are sexually abused/asaulted. If you have a problem with that.... well that says far more about you than about me, Ms 'Petty Individual'. And certainly fine with 'dark places' when it comes to those who abuse children. Wood chipper go Brrrrrrrrrt.

[Mountain Man]

What exactly is "first century culture" and what precisely are "high context societies"?

You really don't know?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yes, I do have that right. Any impartial reading of the post in question would have led to a similar interpretation.

I disagree. I consider it more judicious to request the person qualify and/or explain their comments.

An opinion founded in observation, or to rephrase, an informed opinion (though perhaps I should have said that secular studies are not as thoroughly impacted by life choices.)

In what respect is it "informed" opinion? Are you suggesting certain individuals cannot comment on "Christian Studies"?

I do not acknowledge him (nor anyone who thinks no records were written until after the fall of Jerusalem) as such - but then, I'm a heretic - most particularly when I'm right.

Excluding those letters of Paul's deemed authentic to that writer, what is there? I know that there is scholarly speculation but what attested evidence exists?

[tabibito]

Are you suggesting certain individuals cannot comment on "Christian Studies"?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Shouldn't this be on the other thread I started? It seem more appropriate to exchanges on the current state of much of the MSM

[Sparko]

Then feel free to carry on without me. You can discuss it amongst yourselves.

Edited. Do you personally believe that Acts 5.11 is a record of real events?

Acts 5:11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events

That??

Sure. Probably a bit hyperbolic.

[tabibito]

Acts 5:11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events

That??

Sure. Probably a bit hyperbolic.

Hyperbolic in translation, yes. "The whole" or "all, every" etc, in Koine Greek, simply means either "a significant proportion of" or "the whole, all" etc unless "without exception" is specified one way or another. E.g. παν (pan) can go either way, απαν (apan) specifies no exceptions.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Acts 5:11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events

That??

Sure. Probably a bit hyperbolic.

You really believe the events in Acts 5.1-11 events occurred as described in the text? That two people were killed with a word/look by Peter?

You do not view this scenario as a literary construct invented to reinforce a moral point in a dramatic narrative?

[oxmixmudd]

You really believe the events in Acts 5.1-11 events occurred as described in the text? That two people were killed with a word/look by Peter?

You do not view this scenario as a literary construct invented to reinforce a moral point in a dramatic narrative?

And why not? The alternative you propose requires lying and manipulation. This was a one off event. There is no reason to doubt it happened, and no real reason for anyone to have lied about it. Your skeptic brain just doesn't believe it could possibly have been accurate and so you invent some scheme more immoral than the deeds of annanias and his wife to explain it, but the reality is, there is no reason it could not be an accurate recounting of events. Otherwise healthy people do sometimes drop dead. Sometimes they do so in close proximity in time or to some other event.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

And why not?

Then why not believe every alleged supernatural event? Why be selective?

The alternative you propose requires lying and manipulation.

Why should a literary morality tale require lying?

[Esther]

You really believe the events in Acts 5.1-11 events occurred as described in the text? That two people were killed with a word/look by Peter?

Yes indeed! Also that people were healed by Peter's shadow and Paul's handkerchiefs Acts 5:15-16 and Acts 19:11-12

¹⁵ So that they [even] kept carrying out the sick into the streets and placing them on couches and sleeping pads, [in the hope] that as Peter passed by, at least his shadow might fall on some of them.

¹⁶ And the people gathered also from the towns and hamlets around Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those troubled with foul spirits, and they were all cured. Acts 5:15-16


¹¹ And God did unusual and extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul,

¹² So that handkerchiefs or towels or aprons which had touched his skin were carried away and put upon the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them. Acts 19:11-12

[mossrose]

You really believe the events in Acts 5.1-11 events occurred as described in the text? That two people were killed with a word/look by Peter?

You do not view this scenario as a literary construct invented to reinforce a moral point in a dramatic narrative?

You don't seem to get that Peter did not cause their deaths.

God did. God did. GOD did!!!!!!

[mossrose]

Yes indeed! Also that people were healed by Peter's shadow and Paul's handkerchiefs Acts 5:15-16 and Acts 19:11-12

¹⁵ So that they [even] kept carrying out the sick into the streets and placing them on couches and sleeping pads, [in the hope] that as Peter passed by, at least his shadow might fall on some of them.

¹⁶ And the people gathered also from the towns and hamlets around Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those troubled with foul spirits, and they were all cured. Acts 5:15-16


¹¹ And God did unusual and extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul,

¹² So that handkerchiefs or towels or aprons which had touched his skin were carried away and put upon the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them. Acts 19:11-12

Well, the people weren't healed by those things. GOD healed them through those things.