Barack Hussein Obama foreign policy disaster megathread

[Cow Poke]

Note that Fournier is not defending Obama, nor am I,

Yeah, which is why, in responding to your post, I said "those defending Obama" -- I should have been more clear that I did NOT mean you. My bad.

but what would you have him do? What would Bush, McCain or Romney have done?

Act more like Reagan.

[Darth Executor]

Why is Bush always brought up when the discussion is about Obama's poor leadership? I mean, always? Is there so little ammunition to defend Obama from criticism that his supporters must resort, seemingly without fail, to bringing up his predecessor?

I don't even understand how "he's just like Bush" is supposed to be a defense to begin with. The way they talk about it you'd think the Shrub had been a second Alexander the Great or Otto von Bismarck and not a miserable failure.

[Zymologist]

Why is Bush always brought up when the discussion is about Obama's poor leadership? I mean, always? Is there so little ammunition to defend Obama from criticism that his supporters must resort, seemingly without fail, to bringing up his predecessor?

I don't mean this as disrespectful, robrecht, I just see it happen on nearly every issue for which Obama receives criticism.

[robrecht]

The current situation is, indeed, very troubling, and I'm amazed that those defending Obama use the Bush example. If Bush handled that so badly, as I've seen some of them complain, why on earth would Obama follow in his footsteps?

It's possible that there is NOT a "good" solution to the current situation, but Obama's foreign policy has been giving a green light to Putin for his entire administration.

It is Obama's disastrous foreign policy that has pretty much signaled that the USA will stand back and do nothing. I still have visions of Hillary taking the "Reset Button" to the Russians to let them know we're gonna play nice.

Note that Fournier is not defending Obama, nor am I, but what would you have him do? What would Bush, McCain or Romney have done?

[Darth Executor]

Should we perhaps send troops into Crimea, invade Russia, keep silent and say nothing? There's no good approach to this.

Sending troops to Western Ukraine sounds like a very good idea to me. There's no need to invade Russia and Putin's not gonna start a nuclear exchange over Ukraine anymore than we are. Russia has the potential to become a superpower again, just like NAZI Germany did. More importantly, they have no reason not to be one if they can get away with it and plenty of reason to do exactly that. Just like NAZI Germany did...

[Cow Poke]

The current situation is, indeed, very troubling, and I'm amazed that those defending Obama use the Bush example. If Bush handled that so badly, as I've seen some of them complain, why on earth would Obama follow in his footsteps?

It's possible that there is NOT a "good" solution to the current situation, but Obama's foreign policy has been giving a green light to Putin for his entire administration.

It is Obama's disastrous foreign policy that has pretty much signaled that the USA will stand back and do nothing. I still have visions of Hillary taking the "Reset Button" to the Russians to let them know we're gonna play nice.

[robrecht]

Should we perhaps send troops into Crimea, invade Russia, keep silent and say nothing? There's no good approach to this.

Recall Bush Junior responding to a question about whether or not Putin was a man Americans can trust: "Yes. ... I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. ... I was able to get a sense of his soul ... I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust him."

I suspect Bush knew what he was saying was not true but was putting the best face on the situation. Look at what Bush did in Georgia in 2008.

"We did a lot, but in the end there was not much that you could do," said James F. Jeffrey, Bush's deputy national security advisor.

Quotes taken from Ron Fournier's March 2nd piece in the National Journal. Fournier was the reporter who asked this question of Bush.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white...fools-20140302

[Cow Poke]

Meanwhile, with Obama's attention forced on the Black Sea, just recently, N Korea is firing missiles again (twice in the last week), Russia has announced it will be refueling its bombers in communist-leaning countries, Syria is still in turmoil, Libya was a failed Obama "accomplishment", and, a Russian spy ship, The Viktor Leonov, makes an unannounced visit to a Havana Bay.

Is it time, yet, for Obama to return his Nobel Prize?

[Paprika]

that, to you brits, would be that he's a

ftfy.

[Cow Poke]

That, to you Brits, would be that he plans on informing his mum.

yeah!

[rogue06]

Most of what was posted is pretty tame, compared to some other insults that have been leveled at presidents of the past.

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Obviously this is utterly false. No other president in our history has taken any flack or been insulted by the opposition. This is a situation unique to Obama. And of course it is all racially motivated since nobody could possibly disagree with his policies.

[rogue06]

I was expecting that from SOMEBODY across the pond, but ... I'm telling Mom!

That, to you Brits, would be that he plans on informing his mum.

[Cow Poke]

Name an issue and I will give you the Republican idea. That'll prove that your "no ideas" parroting is pure rubbish.

He means "no ideas" in the sense that Obama meant "your policy" when he said you can KEEP it. It's only an "idea" or a "policy" if the Obamakins say it is.

Same thing with "the Republicans have never offered an alternative" to Obamacare. Big steaming pile of horsie poo.

[Bill the Cat]

They have no ideas.

Name an issue and I will give you the Republican idea. That'll prove that your "no ideas" parroting is pure rubbish.

[Cow Poke]

I'm pretty sure that Putin is a lot more delighted by the fact that Obama is a bumbling buffoon.

That is all that matters here. That, and the fact that an ever-shrinking minority of people still think the community organizer is doing a better job than the KGB thug. And Jimmy will be right there leading the cheers.