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  • #31
    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Another triggered lib!!!



    Do you know how to read??
    non sequitar. Read Mosby's 2016 drug handbook reference as well. you'll find a lot about how coumadin is chosen and dosed
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
      non sequitar. Read Mosby's 2016 drug handbook reference as well. you'll find a lot about how coumadin is chosen and dosed
      Where did source say "Coumadin not reducing the chance of a future clot"??
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      • #33
        Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
        Where did source say "Coumadin not reducing the chance of a future clot"??
        Here's my issue with your source:
        #1 Its full of bias
        #2 It runs on a lot of presumptions about Mrs. Clinton's future medical care, current medical care.
        #3 It pulled a few facts, threw them together and made it look intelligent while the person who wrote it realistically has no access to Mrs. Clinton's medical records.
        #4 It speaks of the use of anticoagulants during a stroke but disingenously refuses to mention what the anticoagulant it is, the types of strokes that can happen, annd under what circumstances and anticoagulant would be used
        #5 He fails to mention how after a clot busting drug used during a stroke would be treated if a bleed out were to occur. Again very disingenous.
        #6 He writes this:
        The risks and benefits of anticoagulation must be weighed against the risk of a stroke if one does not use blood thinners; and is a choice for every patient to make with their physician.
        Once again this presents a problem All anti coagulants reduce certain types of strokes, This includes Aspirin, Certain other NSAID's (Ibuprofen is now under research for its anticlotting factors) Warfarin, Xarelto, Pradaxa, Heparin, TPA (the clot buster for strokes) and some under investigation including one from snake venom. You failed to research your source,, He only mentioned an Intracranial Hemorrhage which has a few causes. I'll get into that later.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
          Here's my issue with your source:
          #1 Its full of bias
          #2 It runs on a lot of presumptions about Mrs. Clinton's future medical care, current medical care.
          #3 It pulled a few facts, threw them together and made it look intelligent while the person who wrote it realistically has no access to Mrs. Clinton's medical records.
          #4 It speaks of the use of anticoagulants during a stroke but disingenously refuses to mention what the anticoagulant it is, the types of strokes that can happen, annd under what circumstances and anticoagulant would be used
          #5 He fails to mention how after a clot busting drug used during a stroke would be treated if a bleed out were to occur. Again very disingenous.
          #6 He writes this: Once again this presents a problem All anti coagulants reduce certain types of strokes, This includes Aspirin, Certain other NSAID's (Ibuprofen is now under research for its anticlotting factors) Warfarin, Xarelto, Pradaxa, Heparin, TPA (the clot buster for strokes) and some under investigation including one from snake venom. You failed to research your source,, He only mentioned an Intracranial Hemorrhage which has a few causes. I'll get into that later.
          Catholicity: your source says "Coumadin not reducing the chance of a future clot". Oh dear Lawsy. Someone needs to read a better source.
          Me: Where?? Can you read??
          Catholicity: Squirrels!!!!!!!!!!!
          Me: Someone needs to learn to read!!! And be honest!!
          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
            Ahh, the sniping husband to the rescue!!

            Legitimate question?? Where did source say "Coumadin not reducing the chance of a future clot"??
            Excuse me, what I should have said was the source was rather dishonest with regards to the reasons it is chosen as a typical first line agent in clot reduction. Coumadin is also adminstrated as a clot busting drug in people who have DVT's or certain other clots depending on the type and size of the clot. Your source is at best again disingenuous about Coumadin.
            A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              So this is your only response to a legitimate question about your sources? You are truly an idiot.
              Question was stupid. A mistake, Catholicity admitted.

              Idiot.
              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
                Excuse me, what I should have said was the source was rather dishonest with regards to the reasons it is chosen as a typical first line agent in clot reduction.
                Is okay I forgive your embarrassing fail attempt at ad hominem!!!!

                Your source is at best again disingenuous about Coumadin.

                Is okay, just carry on!!
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                  Is okay I forgive your embarrassing fail attempt at ad hominem!!!!




                  Is okay, just carry on!!
                  I don't think you know the full meaning of Ad Hominem.....
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                    https://youtu.be/YMHOcmDVBP0

                    Look like seizure, then good acting to recover!!! What say you??
                    I've been doing a bit of reading on this, and some people are saying it's not a seizure but uncontrollable muscle movement consistent with Parkinson's. Yes, she was startled by the sudden onslaught of questions, so rearing back in surprise is perfectly natural, but the facial spasms and exaggerated head bobbing continuing for several seconds afterwards is not. You can even see from the reverse angle just how startled the reporters are by Hillary's reaction.

                    People have pointed to other clues like Hillary's odd "freezing" gait when she walks, and the fact that she apparently has difficulty climbing stairs. There is a standing order among the press that they are forbidden from taking pictures or videos of Hillary boarding or leaving an airplane because one of the last videos during her time as Secretary of State showed her visibly struggling to get to the top of the stairs and then falling flat on her face when she tripped over the threshold.



                    A picture surfaced recently showing Hillary's staffers supporting her as she ascended a short flight of steps leading up to a porch.

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                    Some pundits have played it off saying that it was because she had slipped and not because she couldn't otherwise climb the stairs, which begs the question, why did she slip?

                    Then there's this odd video where Hillary freezes for several seconds when confronted by protestors during a speech. She just goes completely blank until a secret service agent (some people think he's really her personal physician) startles her at which point she seems confused and has to be reminded to keep talking.



                    And this isn't the only video where she does something like this:



                    Then there's her exaggerated reaction to the balloons at the Democrat Nation Convention, again consistent with someone who lacks fine motor control:



                    Finally, there's her persistent throat-clearing and coughing fits, another Parkinson's symptom because people afflicted with the disease have difficulty swallowing.

                    Even though the Clinton campaign and the media have been very careful to keep it hidden, there is just too much evidence out there for it to be easily dismissed. I'm not wishing this on her. My grandfather died from Parkinson's, and it is an ugly, cruel disease that I wouldn't wish on anybody, but I think the public deserves to know the truth about a candidate, including their health, before we're asked to vote for them. John McCain was constantly questioned about his health during his presidential run, so why shouldn't the same questions be asked about Hillary?
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      I've been doing a bit of reading on this, and some people are saying it's not a seizure but uncontrollable muscle movement consistent with Parkinson's....
                      I'm waiting to see the debates, where she will have to respond unscripted, and there won't be an opportunity for others to escort her out, or suddenly end the "news conference".... She'll be alone at her podium for an extended period of time under considerable stress.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        She'll be alone at her podium for an extended period of time under considerable stress.
                        At a recent campaign stop in Los Angeles:

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                        But I do wonder about the debates... do you suppose the networks will figure out some way to make them more scripted and predictable? Because many speculate the reason Hillary doesn't do press conferences is because she physically can't handle the unpredictable as evidenced by her odd behavior when caught off guard.

                        As many have said, the problem with Parkinson's is not the disease, which is debilitating in its own right, but the medications required to suppress the symptoms which often impair one's cognitive abilities, and as the disease progresses, stronger and stronger doses are required, meaning increasingly impaired cognitive ability.

                        But does she have Parkinson's? I honestly have no idea, but I do know that there is something wrong with her physically.
                        Last edited by Mountain Man; 08-11-2016, 11:21 AM.
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                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          At a recent campaign stop in Los Angeles:

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                          OK, I've seen that picture as "proof" of Hillary's instability, but look how much taller she is than her attendants --- she's obviously standing on something, and it may be something that her handlers felt was unsafe, so they're steadying her.

                          I'm no Hillary defender, for sure, but I'd like to see, in this case, what it is she's standing on.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            OK, I've seen that picture as "proof" of Hillary's instability, but look how much taller she is than her attendants --- she's obviously standing on something, and it may be something that her handlers felt was unsafe, so they're steadying her.

                            I'm no Hillary defender, for sure, but I'd like to see, in this case, what it is she's standing on.
                            Yeah.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post


                              A picture surfaced recently showing Hillary's staffers supporting her as she ascended a short flight of steps leading up to a porch.

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                              Some pundits have played it off saying that it was because she had slipped and not because she couldn't otherwise climb the stairs, which begs the question, why did she slip?
                              That's more than simply being assisted. She really does seem to have an issue with stairs

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                              Last edited by rogue06; 08-11-2016, 11:40 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                OK, I've seen that picture as "proof" of Hillary's instability, but look how much taller she is than her attendants --- she's obviously standing on something, and it may be something that her handlers felt was unsafe, so they're steadying her.

                                I'm no Hillary defender, for sure, but I'd like to see, in this case, what it is she's standing on.
                                It still begs the question, why do they feel the need to steady her?
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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