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    Are there any stats on the percentage of those killed by police by race? And the race of those who kill Cops by percentage?
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    I actually heard on the radio yesterday a guy who's job it was to collect the stats of those killed by police (rightly or wrongly obviously). Thing is they hadn't started actually collecting this info as standard until last year, prior to that it was voluntary information.

    I'll have to look it up before I can say more specifically, however.

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    • #3
      According to Heather Mac Donald's research, we just find a lot more crime in black communities. Of course that would draw a lot more policing and more aggressive policing.


      Every year, approximately 6,000 blacks are murdered. This is a number greater than white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks are only 12 percent of the national population. Blacks of all ages are killed at six times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined.

      That black death-by-homicide rate is a function of the black crime rate. The national rate of homicides committed by blacks is eight times that of whites and Hispanics combined. Black males between the ages of 14 and 17 commit homicide at 10 times the rate of white and Hispanic male teens combined.

      The police could end all lethal uses of force tomorrow, both justified and unjustified, and it would have at most a trivial effect on the black death rate. According to the FBI, the police kill somewhat more than 400 people a year, one-third of them black. Some estimates put police killings at twice the FBI number, but the proportion of black shooting fatalities remains one-third. That is a rate lower than black crime rates would predict.
      Homicide is not the only crime that is vastly racially disproportionate. New York City is representative of other crime spreading across the country. Blacks are 23 percent of New York's population, but they commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime, according to the victims of, and witnesses to, those crimes.

      Whites are 33 percent of the city's population, but they commit less than 2 percent of all shootings, 4 percent of all robberies, and 5 percent of all violent crime.

      https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...look-7832.html
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #4
        I also found this.

        Police more reluctant to shoot blacks than whites, study finds

        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          More food for thought...

          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #6
            I haven't really had a chance to peruse this site yet, but remembered it was out there...

            https://www.propublica.org/article/d...ailynewsletter

            lemme know if that tells us anything.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              A lot of this is like the plane/car crash debate.

              When a plane crashes, it makes BIG headlines, even though FAR more people are killed in car crashes.

              If somebody wants to do some research and math (otherwise, I'll do it later) I was wondering about an American black's chances of being killed by a white cop vs. being killed by another black. (In Chicago, that would be a blowout stat)
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                I haven't really had a chance to peruse this site yet, but remembered it was out there...

                https://www.propublica.org/article/d...ailynewsletter

                lemme know if that tells us anything.
                Yes, it says that percentage wise blacks are more likely to be killed by a cop. But they fail to mention that the crime rate in black communities is much higher, therefore cops are in much more danger, generally, and that they are interacting with that community more, and that there are just more criminals..
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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                • #9
                  The guardian is an extreme far left newspaper? The current leader of the Labour Party is Jeremy Corbin, who is very left wing and the Guardian hates him- a blairite newspaper if ever there was one

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
                    The guardian is an extreme far left newspaper? The current leader of the Labour Party is Jeremy Corbin, who is very left wing and the Guardian hates him- a blairite newspaper if ever there was one
                    Right and Left mean different things across the pond --- remember, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road.





                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Ha! True- not many countries drive on the left. Flying in the face of popular opinion as always, as brexit proved! -_-

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by seer View Post
                        Are there any stats on the percentage of those killed by police by race? And the race of those who kill Cops by percentage?
                        Guardian has the best stats site I've seen so far. You can break it down by race, gender, armed/unarmed, state, etc.


                        http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...gs-us-database

                        So far 569 people killed by police in the US.

                        13 Native American
                        137 Black
                        88 Hispanic/Latino
                        279 White
                        10 Asian/Pacific Islander
                        42 Other/Unknown
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Thinker View Post
                          Guardian has the best stats site I've seen so far. You can break it down by race, gender, armed/unarmed, state, etc.


                          http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...gs-us-database

                          So far 569 people killed by police in the US.

                          13 Native American
                          137 Black
                          88 Hispanic/Latino
                          279 White
                          10 Asian/Pacific Islander
                          42 Other/Unknown
                          Percentage wise Cops kill more blacks than whites, but that would follow the fact of higher crime rates:

                          That black death-by-homicide rate is a function of the black crime rate. The national rate of homicides committed by blacks is eight times that of whites and Hispanics combined. Black males between the ages of 14 and 17 commit homicide at 10 times the rate of white and Hispanic male teens combined.

                          The police could end all lethal uses of force tomorrow, both justified and unjustified, and it would have at most a trivial effect on the black death rate. According to the FBI, the police kill somewhat more than 400 people a year, one-third of them black. Some estimates put police killings at twice the FBI number, but the proportion of black shooting fatalities remains one-third. That is a rate lower than black crime rates would predict.
                          Homicide is not the only crime that is vastly racially disproportionate. New York City is representative of other crime spreading across the country. Blacks are 23 percent of New York's population, but they commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime, according to the victims of, and witnesses to, those crimes.

                          Whites are 33 percent of the city's population, but they commit less than 2 percent of all shootings, 4 percent of all robberies, and 5 percent of all violent crime.

                          https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...look-7832.html
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seer View Post
                            Are there any stats on the percentage of those killed by police by race? And the race of those who kill Cops by percentage?
                            Posted this while the Ferguson shooting was still hot

                            And the Washington Times recently ran this:

                            Source: Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage

                            Source

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                            Wrt the last statistic, a recent study that a black person living in Chicago has an 1.13 in 1000 chance of being shot. Period. Funny how groups like Black Lives Matter and liberal politicians aren't up in arms (no pun intended) about this. But then they can't blame whites, or the police or give their typical knee jerk reaction of demanding stricter gun control since Chicago already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Posted this while the Ferguson shooting was still hot

                              And the Washington Times recently ran this:

                              Source: Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage

                              Source

                              © Copyright Original Source



                              Wrt the last statistic, a recent study that a black person living in Chicago has an 1.13 in 1000 chance of being shot. Period. Funny how groups like Black Lives Matter and liberal politicians aren't up in arms (no pun intended) about this. But then they can't blame whites, or the police or give their typical knee jerk reaction of demanding stricter gun control since Chicago already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.
                              Yeah, that!
                              And no, I didn't try to report it.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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