Hillary's Troubles Solidify

[Cow Poke]

It's popular among Sanders supporters. I'm not flogging a viewpoint here, I'm trying to give you guys a broader picture because I'm in a position to know this stuff more than most people on this site, particularly people in this thread that have anti knowledge.

Wow. Such humility I have not seen since Rush Limbaugh's television show years ago!

[Adam]

I have to ask it. "What does TYT stand for?" I mean what do the initials represent?

[Cow Poke]

I have to ask it. "What does TYT stand for?" I mean what do the initials represent?

I would guess The Young Turks

[Adam]

If so, "so what?"

[Starlight]

I have to ask it. "What does TYT stand for?" I mean what do the initials represent?

As CP said, The Young Turks. It's a word-play on the term "Young Turk" that refers to a person who's a political revolutionary, and the fact that several of the founders are young and were born in Turkey. The owner is Cenk Uygur who used to have a talkshow on MSNBC.

They post nearly all their content on youtube, and there's quite a number of different youtube channels within their franchise, but their main channel is here.

They primarily cover US political news from a strongly liberal, progressive & atheistic perspective, and are very popular with young people, myself included. They're making a serious effort to pass a constitutional amendment through the states to get money out of federal politics, as they view corruption as the cause of the vast majority of America's political problems. They tend to mock and deride mainstream news channels, aka "corporate media", which they view as being corrupt propaganda mouthpieces for the corporations and corrupt political establishment.

[Adam]

Thank you.

[Bill the Cat]

Say what you will about Cenk, but he tells it like he sees it.

That's the key. As HE sees it, which, from what I have seen recently, needs to be acquainted with reality.

There's no filter.

Or fact checks.

My people adore that.

Uncritical eye for the liberal guy, huh?

The fake, corporate nonsense that comprises 24hour news is just ... straight vomit

For the most part, yes. From both sides.

with the occasional exception like Maddow

She is an educated narcissistic moron.

or whenever Shep Smith goes off script.

Which isn't that often TBH...

[Sparko]

even msnbc is finally seeing how crooked or stupid Hillary is.

this 10 minute video is worth watching. the reporters are actually distressed about it.

[Starlight]

even msnbc is finally seeing how crooked or stupid Hillary is.

The Morning Joe show on MSNBC has criticized Clinton this entire election cycle. Joe is a Republican, and Mika is a Sanders supporter. They both have it in for Clinton, and I've enjoyed watching their coverage this election. But they're not "finally seeing" Clinton's crookedness, they've been criticizing her the entire election.

[Jaecp]

Thank you.

Sorry for not answering myself. You'd be surprised how little cell reception there is in the woods ;) I knew Sean was aware of TYT so I didn't spell it out

[Bill the Cat]

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/26/politics/hillary-clinton-wolf-blitzer-interview/index.html

Hillary Clinton defended her email practices as secretary of state on Thursday, saying the rules that governed its use were hardly a "model of clarity."

"I thought it was allowed. I knew past secretaries of state used personal email," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room, saying the rules were only recently improved.

"They were not a model of clarity and it seems like there is still more work to do on that," she said.

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So, the back peddling continues...

[KingsGambit]

I suspect some important things in the phrasing of this are being lost in the retelling.

Clinton has made some major foreign policy errors. She's been, on the whole, particularly bad at foreign policy. Sanders, on the whole, has been pretty much on the money on foreign policy. It's no stretch at all to say that Sanders is better on his current foreign policies than Clinton is, and has historically been better on foreign policy than she has. It's totally reasonable for a Sanders supporter to attack Clinton on her foreign policy mistakes, and it's commonly done.

IMO, what Clinton's foreign policy experience teaches us is that nobody should let her anywhere near foreign policy again. And I would say exactly the same thing about Dick Cheney.

I actually suspect we agree far more on the issue of America's foreign policy than you would think; Clinton's level of interventionism worries me and as you mention, her failures speak for themselves. Having said that, the question being discussed was not who had the better foreign policy platform but who had more foreign policy experience. Saying this would be nonsense. Perhaps my brother recounted the account to me incorrectly; I wouldn't rule this out.

We don't know a whole lot about how Sanders would actually handle foreign policy because he has attempted to deflect the conversation back to economics at every opportunity. What we have seen is unpromising, though. Far from being a paragon of human rights, Sanders was supportive of press crackdowns in Nicaragua: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-a-lesson.html While Sanders was correct to be critical of CIA policy in Latin America, mere agreement with this observation is about all I will praise him for.

[Sparko]

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/26/politics/hillary-clinton-wolf-blitzer-interview/index.html

Hillary Clinton defended her email practices as secretary of state on Thursday, saying the rules that governed its use were hardly a "model of clarity."

"I thought it was allowed. I knew past secretaries of state used personal email," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room, saying the rules were only recently improved.

"They were not a model of clarity and it seems like there is still more work to do on that," she said.

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So, the back peddling continues...

basically "I was too stupid to understand the rules or ask anyone for clarification or permission before I broke the law"

ignorance is no excuse. It makes her unfit to be the next President.

[Bill the Cat]

basically "I was too stupid to understand the rules or ask anyone for clarification or permission before I broke the law"

And then lied through her teeth that she did have permission

ignorance is no excuse. It makes her unfit to be the next President.

Among other things...

[rogue06]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of Hillary's biggest defenders in Congress, is declaring "enough is enough" as it is becoming increasingly apparent that Hillary has repeatedly lied about nearly every facet of her continuing to burgeon email scandal. No, she's not saying that she's fed up with the constant deception but rather that its time to drop it and move on.

On Sunday's This Week on ABC Fienstein lamented that poor old Hillary is just "a woman who wants a little bit of a private life" and wants to be able to correspond with family and "not have somebody looking over her shoulder into her emails." Apparently Fienstein is too ignorant to understand that you can get separate email accounts for just that sort of thing. Or more likely hopes that the public is too stupid not to realize that.

Feinstein then went on to say "I don't think we should make a federal case over it."

To nobody's surprise guest host Jonathan Karl didn't point out the gaping hole in that flimsy excuse but dutifully changed the topic.