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  • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    Refusing to vote for A, is a vote for B.

    How does that statement make sense? Refusing to vote, is simple refusing to vote. Wanting neither of them.
    Lower voter turnout in the US is generally correlated with conservative success in elections. People who are less likely to vote (young, minorities) are more likely to vote for the Democratic candidate. It's considered to be a contributing factor to Republicans winning senate races, for example.
    I'm not here anymore.

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    • An interesting analysis of how the under-30s age-group voted in the primaries, from here. It shows data from the primaries during which both parties still had a choice of candidates:

      Youth votes.jpg

      The "Obama coalition" that propelled Obama to the White House included getting a disproportionate amount of young people and African Americans to vote for him. Hillary has got the African American vote wrapped up, but is currently losing badly when it comes to young people (not that Trump is doing much better).
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      • New emails reveal that Hillary's server was actually left unsecured for a period of time while her techs tried to repair a variety of technical issues!

        Source: Breitbart

        http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...-email-server/

        © Copyright Original Source


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        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
          Refusing to vote for A, is a vote for B.

          How does that statement make sense? Refusing to vote, is simple refusing to vote. Wanting neither of them.
          Its not a matter of not "wanting either of them, you're going to get one of them whether you like it or not. So, its a matter of which of the two would you rather have as president. Not voting for the one of the two that you would rather be president, is one more vote in the others column.

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Its not a matter of not "wanting either of them, you're going to get one of them whether you like it or not. So, its a matter of which of the two would you rather have as president. Not voting for the one of the two that you would rather be president, is one more vote in the others column.
            This kind of reasoning is a part of why you guys are stuck in a two party system in the US.

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            • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
              This kind of reasoning is a part of why you guys are stuck in a two party system in the US.
              That and the structural setup that basically guarantees one

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              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                So, its a matter of which of the two would you rather have as president.
                No, in this election cycle, it's a matter of which of the two I would rather NOT have as president.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • The election bumper sticker for this year is the picture of a screw (actually seen so far as the word with "ed" on the end) and "Election 2016".
                  Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)

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                  • And in case that doesn't work...


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                    • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                      This kind of reasoning is a part of why you guys are stuck in a two party system in the US.
                      I don't think a two-party system was ever really intended, it's just more or less been that way since the beginning. The Republican-Democrat (today's Democrats) party has been there all along. After the Federalists faded, the Whigs took their place; in the waning years of the Whig party, the Republicans rose to prominence. There have been occasional third parties, but they've mostly been ephemeral or largely irrelevant.
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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        I don't think a two-party system was ever really intended, it's just more or less been that way since the beginning. The Republican-Democrat (today's Democrats) party has been there all along. After the Federalists faded, the Whigs took their place; in the waning years of the Whig party, the Republicans rose to prominence. There have been occasional third parties, but they've mostly been ephemeral or largely irrelevant.
                        And anytime they get big enough to matter, one of the larger two parties will just absorb them.

                        Our electoral system just doesn't support more than 2 major parties.

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                        • Source: Breitbart

                          http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...3/smoking-gun/

                          © Copyright Original Source


                          If this was anybody but Hillary, she'd be in jail right now and wouldn't get out for a long, long time.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                            This kind of reasoning is a part of why you guys are stuck in a two party system in the US.
                            Thats not my reasoning, its just the facts here in the U.S. I agree that the two party winner take all elections in the U.S. should be scrapped, it's a government that is not representative of all the people. Particularly in this country which is so evenly divided that even if a canidate wins by only one vote out of 100,000 cast, the 49,999 who voted for the loser get no representation. Its not really very democratic at all if you ask me.

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Thats not my reasoning, its just the facts here in the U.S. I agree that the two party winner take all elections in the U.S. should be scrapped, it's a government that is not representative of all the people. Particularly in this country which is so evenly divided that even if a canidate wins by only one vote out of 100,000 cast, the 49,999 who voted for the loser get no representation. Its not really very democratic at all if you ask me.
                              The United States is not a democracy.
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                              • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                The United States is not a democracy.
                                I lost track of how many times he's been told that.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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