Hillary's Troubles Solidify

[Cow Poke]

I think a likely possibility is that the Clintons are beginning to think about who they want in their cabinet etc, and probably Hillary is going around talking to everyone in the current administration about how interested they would be in staying on in their jobs in a Clinton presidency.

Hillary presumably knows that it would be way out of bounds for her to meet with Loretta Lynch herself at the moment. So she may have sent Bill to have that conversation. Even so, it's still an implicit bribe for Lynch - it's telling her that if she doesn't prosecute and lets Clinton win the presidency then she gets to keep her good job for as long as she wants it.

Let's assume she did "send Bill"..... you think that's even a tiny bit appropriate under the circumstances? And you think that dangling a job before the very person who holds your own future in the balance is proper?

[Bill the Cat]

I think a likely possibility is that the Clintons are beginning to think about who they want in their cabinet etc, and probably Hillary is going around talking to everyone in the current administration about how interested they would be in staying on in their jobs in a Clinton presidency.

Hillary presumably knows that it would be way out of bounds for her to meet with Loretta Lynch herself at the moment. So she may have sent Bill to have that conversation. Even so, it's still an implicit bribe for Lynch - it's telling her that if she doesn't prosecute and lets Clinton win the presidency then she gets to keep her good job for as long as she wants it.

Actually, no. According to several people at the Phoenix Airport, the meeting was circumstantial when they bumped into each other on the tarmac in Phoenix while he was getting ready to depart Phoenix from being on Clinton Foundation business and she had just arrived for an official visit.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/

According to a law enforcement official familiar with the matter, the former president saw Lynch's plane on the tarmac and walked onto her aircraft. Lynch's FBI security detail did not stop Clinton and he proceeded to initiate an extended conversation that included discussion of grandchildren. Lynch was surprised to see Clinton walking onto her plane, the official said, and no Justice Department business was discussed.

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[Cow Poke]

Actually, no. According to several people at the Phoenix Airport, the meeting was circumstantial when they bumped into each other on the tarmac in Phoenix while he was getting ready to depart Phoenix from being on Clinton Foundation business and she had just arrived for an official visit.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/

According to a law enforcement official familiar with the matter, the former president saw Lynch's plane on the tarmac and walked onto her aircraft. Lynch's FBI security detail did not stop Clinton and he proceeded to initiate an extended conversation that included discussion of grandchildren. Lynch was surprised to see Clinton walking onto her plane, the official said, and no Justice Department business was discussed.

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So, yeah, ON HER PLANE..... The Clintons don't believe that any laws or rules of decorum apply to them.... they are the ultimate elitists.

[rogue06]

Actually, no. According to several people at the Phoenix Airport, the meeting was circumstantial when they bumped into each other on the tarmac in Phoenix while he was getting ready to depart Phoenix from being on Clinton Foundation business and she had just arrived for an official visit.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/

According to a law enforcement official familiar with the matter, the former president saw Lynch's plane on the tarmac and walked onto her aircraft. Lynch's FBI security detail did not stop Clinton and he proceeded to initiate an extended conversation that included discussion of grandchildren. Lynch was surprised to see Clinton walking onto her plane, the official said, and no Justice Department business was discussed.

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Lynch or her aides should have immediately recognized that at the very least such a meeting creates an appearance of impropriety and avoided it.

[Cow Poke]

Lynch or her aides should have immediately recognized that at the very least such a meeting creates an appearance of impropriety and avoided it.

That was my initial reaction, but he is, indeed, a former POTUS, and it would be hard for an aide to stop him.... and it probably really surprised and flustered Lynch. But, yeah, somebody should have pointed out the impropriety of this, and not allowed it to happen.

[Catholicity]

Hold that thought.....



They "bumped into" each other ON HER PLANE. Not just in the concourse, or on the tarmac.



WOW! You're probably one of the few who believed Bill Clinton's "I did not have sekshule relations with that woman" statement!

Are there people who actually believe he wasn't getting some? Seriously?????

[rogue06]

Are there people who actually believe he wasn't getting some? Seriously?????

During the early years of his Administration -- after admitting to having had some affairs -- there were a couple guests on a "talking heads" show (where pundits express their opinions) adamantly denying that Bill ever cheated on Hillary. It was all Republican lies and dirty tricks. You know, what Hillary would call "the vast right wing conspiracy."

[Cow Poke]

During the early years of his Administration -- after admitting to having had some affairs -- there were a couple guests on a "talking heads" show (where pundits express their opinions) adamantly denying that Bill ever cheated on Hillary. It was all Republic lies and dirty tricks.

And he had CABINET LEVEL government officials proclaiming his innocence!

[fm93]

Voting for Hillary might force me to go against as much as 50% of my conscience. But voting for Donald would force me to go against 100% of my conscience.

I think Hillary is ultimately a decent person who unfortunately evinces a "ends justify the means" attitude sometimes. Donald, on the other hand, just isn't a decent person. Hillary is quite possibly a criminal. Donald is quite probably a criminal.

I wish there was a way to know reasonable Republicans won't vote for Donald out of party loyalty, so I could vote third-party and soothe my conscience altogether.

[Cow Poke]

Voting for Hillary might force me to go against as much as 50% of my conscience. But voting for Donald would force me to go against 100% of my conscience.

I think Hillary is ultimately a decent person...

You really should speak with the staff who has worked for her, and the secret service personnel who protected her. You'd think anybody with half a brain would know better than to denigrate and ostracize the very people entrusted with keeping her alive.

But, then, you may have a different definition of the word "decent".

[fm93]

you may have a different definition of the word "decent".

Being better than Donald, which she is.

Granted, that's not a difficult bar to hurdle.

[rogue06]

Lynch or her aides should have immediately recognized that at the very least such a meeting creates an appearance of impropriety and avoided it.

According to the reporter, Christopher Sign of ABC 15 in Phoenix, Arizona, who broke the story about Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch's half hour long private meeting (that's a lot of talking about grandchildren there ), the FBI agents accompanying them warned reporters not to take pictures. Is that the FBI's job?

And since when doesn't a politician not want their picture taken? The old joke about the most dangerous place in the world being between a politician and a camera comes to mind. I mean why, if it was all perfectly legitimate, would they object to pictures being taken and using the FBI to enforce it?

Oh, and it appears that the FBI agents investigating Hillary are livid over this meeting.

Source: FBI Source to Fox News: Agents Are 'Livid' About Clinton-Lynch Meeting

FBI agents are "livid" about Attorney General Loretta Lynch's meeting with Bill Clinton, Fox News chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge reported today on Outnumbered.

Herridge said that, according to a well-placed FBI source, the agents are not just upset about the poor optics of the meeting.

She explained that Bill Clinton is a potential witness because the FBI is separately investigating corruption allegations against the Clinton Foundation.



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I wonder what they think of their fellow agents acting to enforce a no cameras rule during that meeting.

[Cow Poke]

Being better than Donald, which she is.

Granted, that's not a difficult bar to hurdle.

Oh, so "decent" just means "better than Donald".

wow

[seanD]

I wish there was a way to know reasonable Republicans won't vote for Donald out of party loyalty, so I could vote third-party and soothe my conscience altogether.

Many Republicans do hate Trump; at least the establishment ones. They've even said they'd rather have Hillary because she's part of the establishment as well. It's the mass populous that express support for Trump because they're angry and don't give crap about party politics anymore. It's the exact same populous sentiment that led to Brexit. And I think the liberals are far more disgraceful (or just outright more deluded) than the Trump supporters. They actually had an anti-establishment alternative to Hillary in Bernie, who had a good chance of beating Hillary, yet they chose Hillary. Trump supporters really had no such anti-establishment option that had a chance. Liberals are far more pathetic in that scenario.

[Cow Poke]

Many Republicans do hate Trump;

Personally, I don't hate Trump, and think he's a big gamble ... Hillary, on the other hand, is a known quantity which I believe is worse than Trump.