To Shuny and other geologically literate folks here. Pennsylvanian cyclothems.

[klaus54]

If a lie, then do to misinterpretation of the evidence. One way or the other. One fix would be when very old ages are indicated, the articles need to explain why it is understood to be so. As in the 150,000 year [post flood, I believe] lake bed strata.

You still don't understand the appearance of history (multiple episodes) thingy, do you?

K54

[37818]

You still don't understand the appearance of history (multiple episodes) thingy, do you?

K54

So your example image is wrong (post #45)? Is that what you are claiming? Now why would you do that? I really do not think so. The image shows older and younger strata. The older strata is being cut through by the younger strata. Hay, do you have any understanding of the flood theory of geology. I did not ask if you agree with it. Give me the flood theory explanation, and the excepted scientific geological explanation. Give both.

[klaus54]

So your example image is wrong (post #45)? Is that what you are claiming? Now why would you do that? I really do not think so. The image shows older and younger strata. The older strata is being cut through by the younger strata. Hay, do you have any understanding of the flood theory of geology. I did not ask if you agree with it. Give me the flood theory explanation, and the excepted scientific geological explanation. Give both.

My example image is NOT "wrong". I have no idea what you're taking about. The photo shows multiple episodes of deposition (originally horizontal), cut by erosional surface, and then multiple episodes of deposition upon that.

Nothing could be simpler to a person with a modicum of knowledge of geology and sedimentology.

How would the "flood theory of geology" explain this??

And, yes, I have VERY good knowledge of the "flood theory of geology" having been in this "debate" for over 40 years and even being a reformed YEC who was a full member of CRS for several years.

I don't know what the "flood theory of geology" explanation is, because there is none.

So, please regale me with YOUR explanation of the Siccar Point formation, in particular how it does not represent multiple episodes -- bearing in mind that each stratum requires a fairly long period to lithify and each stratum represents a different depositional episode. Oh, a while you're at it, explain the angular unconformity and erosional surface.

K54

P.S. Shunya -- do want to add to this post? Can you a "flood geology" explanation of Siccar Point?

[JonF]

Any one like to criticize http://www.icr.org/article/experiments-stratification/

A flume is a lousy model for almost all of the stratification we observe. Most stratification takes place in still or near-still water. As shown by the distribution of particle sizes.

I notice "Searching the geological and sedimentological literature, I was surprised to find that there was little experimental data on the formation of strata." Obviously not much of a search, there have been lots of experiments in that filed.

[shunyadragon]

Any one like to criticize http://www.icr.org/article/experiments-stratification/

[shunyadragon]

A flume is a lousy model for almost all of the stratification we observe. Most stratification takes place in still or near-still water. As shown by the distribution of particle sizes.

I notice "Searching the geological and sedimentological literature, I was surprised to find that there was little experimental data on the formation of strata." Obviously not much of a search, there have been lots of experiments in that filed.

You won't find much research on sediment rates of deposition related strata formation, because this research was done and the questions have been answered over 60 years ago. There is more recent research on the environments the dark shales form in, but as far as when, and how sediments form it has been answered long ago.

[JonF]

Yes. And that 60+ year old research is readily available to the serious researcher. I'm near Boston and I bet there are a half-dozen libraries within 25 miles that have it. Gotta be several in Texas.

[pancreasman]

Yes. And that 60+ year old research is readily available to the serious researcher. I'm near Boston and I bet there are a half-dozen libraries within 25 miles that have it. Gotta be several in Texas.

Texas has libraries?

[shunyadragon]

Texas has libraries?

In Austin and San Antonio.

[klaus54]

Texas has libraries?

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