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Is the Earth Flat? - Some Evidence Presented
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostMedieval intellects believed the earth was round too. You have to go back before the Romans and Greeks before you start to find a major society taking the idea of a flat earth seriously.
I get the "Geo" and Flat-Earth threads confused.
Yeah, I wonder how JM got the F-E thing in his craw, since it was not a view of the Church at the time JM's watch stopped in the 13th Century.
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Originally posted by klaus54 View PostYeppers.
I get the "Geo" and Flat-Earth threads confused.
Yeah, I wonder how JM got the F-E thing in his craw, since it was not a view of the Church at the time JM's watch stopped in the 13th Century."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostDispersed cloud shadows and dispersed, variable angled light rays through clouds are evidence for a close, small sun. The long distances seen on shore lines is evidence for a flat earth. The model accounts for these physical observations and posits that the sun lights up what is observed to light up.
Others think otherwise than you. Your evidence?
The following series of pictures of the sun from a plane show the sun's size reduces. The reduction in sun size is not accounted for in the global earth, Helio model. As the Helio model says te sun is about 93 million miles away, the sun's size should not change much at all over the day, for the earth-sun distance doesn't change much. The setting sun is evidence for a close sun that changes size as it orbits away from the viewer and not a large, distant sun.
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostI currently have not researched this area. So I don't know all the details. You could fly to the south pole in the flat earth model and you could return to other countries such as Australia, NZ, SA etc.
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostWhat's the problem here? Please explain.
Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostWhat's the problem here? Why would tides not able to be explained on a flat plane?
Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostEvidence for your claim?
But this article here details it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...t-flights.html
Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostEvidence for this?
On the 17th September 2015, at 10:55 NZST there was an 8.3 quake in Chile. On the 17th September 2015 at 23:50 the tsunami reached the Chatham Islands (roughly 12 hours.)
This is roughly the same length of time it to reach the US.
On the model in the OP, you have the US roughly 1/4 to 1/3 the distance it is to NZ. How does this occur given the model presented in your OP?
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http://www.civildefence.govt.nz/reso...-beach-threat/
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...thquake-q11138
Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostFEer's claim the photos are merely composites and not real. they have examples of earth globe pictures from NASA showing USA with different sizes. Such evidence along with other photographic anomalies lend support to photo claims being questionable. Some FEer's believe the satellites do not exist, because of the high temperature in the upper atmosphere and other forces casing so much damage to the object that they could not function in such an environment.
some evidence of fake photo-shop of a earth picture is given below T4:59 some of the clouds are clearly fake.
We have photographs taken on the moon clearly showing the earth is a sphere (and don't try that claptrap that maybe the moon landings are fake, I have already presented evidence showing that film technology at the time was unable to produce fake footage.)
The satellite referenced in the HelioCentrism thread clearly shows a spherical earth.
The weather balloon would show a flat earth. Evidence has already been presented on this thread from a balloon showing a flat earth and a close sun. The curvature of the earth from a balloon would appear from distortion caused by a fish eye lense.Last edited by Raphael; 02-08-2016, 08:28 PM.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostWe have photographs taken on the moon clearly showing the earth is a sphere (and don't try that claptrap that maybe the moon landings are fake, I have already presented evidence showing that film technology at the time was unable to produce fake footage.)"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostRubbish, novels by Isaac Asimov prove that Venus has massive oceans. (I enjoyed the Lucky Starr series when I was a kid)"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Add to the list of what John' flat earth model needs to be able to explain:
The observed transits of both Mercury and Venus across the face of the sun.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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John Martin...your observations about the planes climbing to 30,000 ft yet not adjusting to follow the curve of the earth...has me scratching my head. Haven't you ever seen a ball? Planes are adjusting to MAINTAIN their altitudes relative to the surface of the earth all the time. Nothing mysterious about that.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostWe have photographs taken on the moon clearly showing the earth is a sphere (and don't try that claptrap that maybe the moon landings are fake, I have already presented evidence showing that film technology at the time was unable to produce fake footage.)
Apparently the photo of the earth from the moon shows the earth to be smaller than expected. The earth's radius is 3.6 times larger than the moons radius. When seen from the moon, the earth should be proportionately larger than what was apparently photographed from the moon.
Some also think the Apollo mission shows a fake earth from the pod.
NASA is guilty of some serious fraud.
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Originally posted by JohnMartin View PostWrong context again.
JM
Here's a very simple question with unambiguous context...
How does the Sun rise and set when it's "orbiting" a flat Earth? It should be visible through its entire daily "orbit".
Also Raphael had a basic question about transits of Venus and Mercury on the Sun.
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