Is the Earth Flat? - Some Evidence Presented

[JohnMartin]

I provided you with a concrete example here. I know you saw it because you responded. For you to claim no such evidence exists is a flat out prevarication.

The evidence was rebutted.

JM

[Sparko]

by the way John, your perspective video is a mockumentery - it is a joke. on purpose. He is trolling YOU!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCO...18iQrtUuKVqhhQ

also the formula he uses to calculate the distance to the horizon, is the formula used to calculate the horizon on a globe. this globe. earth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon

[Sparko]

Evidence for this claim?

JM

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post289778

[JohnMartin]

so? why cant you see it all over the earth at the same time? you can see the stars. if the sun is high enough to light up the flat earth it would be high enough to light up the entire earth at once, even if it were brighter over the place it it hovering at the moment

Dispersed cloud shadows and dispersed, variable angled light rays through clouds are evidence for a close, small sun. The long distances seen on shore lines is evidence for a flat earth. The model accounts for these physical observations and posits that the sun lights up what is observed to light up.

perspective doesn't work that way. especially when you are looking up were there is no horizon.

Others think otherwise than you. Your evidence?

in fact in a flat earth, a horizon is an oxymoron. there is no horizon, just the edge of the earth. in fact while to your unaided eye you might think there is a horizoon because further away objects get smaller in your vision, they would never disappear over a horizon. if you looked with a telescope you would be able to see further, and a very powerful telescope could magnify any object on earth to be seen.

try troll again.

The following series of pictures of the sun from a plane show the sun's size reduces. The reduction in sun size is not accounted for in the global earth, Helio model. As the Helio model says te sun is about 93 million miles away, the sun's size should not change much at all over the day, for the earth-sun distance doesn't change much. The setting sun is evidence for a close sun that changes size as it orbits away from the viewer and not a large, distant sun.

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Picture 2

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Picture 3

JM

[klaus54]

Good bye relativity theory.

Tell that to those who calibrate the clocks on GPS satellites.

They use both Special and General R.

Prove the earth is moving.

Foucault Pendulum
Coriolis Effect
Gravity variation by centripetal acceleration from Poles to Equator
Rockets launched west to east
Geostationary satellites
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Of course you reject all of these for inconsistent reasons.

JM[/QUOTE]

[klaus54]

The evidence was rebutted.

JM

Or you attempted a rebuttal and failed.

[JohnMartin]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post289778

Only see islands off Italy.

JM

[JohnMartin]

Tell that to those who calibrate the clocks on GPS satellites.

They use both Special and General R.




Foucault Pendulum
Coriolis Effect
Gravity variation by centripetal acceleration from Poles to Equator
Rockets launched west to east
Geostationary satellites
.
.
.

Of course you reject all of these for inconsistent reasons.

JM

Geos have answered all these claims already. There is no proof, only claims by Helios who think they have evidence. The evidence can be interpreted in the Geo model better than the Helio model.

JM

[JohnMartin]

Or you attempted a rebuttal and failed.

And you have no evidence, like just about always.

JM

[klaus54]

how can you see Italy but not the sun when it is over Italy and night time in the usa?

Evidence for this claim?

JM

What claim?

So are you saying we CAN see the Sun when it's over Italy and nighttime in the U.S. of A.???

[klaus54]

Geos have answered all these claims already. There is no proof, only claims by Helios who think they have evidence. The evidence can be interpreted in the Geo model better than the Helio model.

JM

Geo have answered inconsistently and incorrectly.

"Helio" explains them all in a mathematically and physically consistent manner.

[Yttrium]

I have not researched this yet. Some information can be obtained here - https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...at+earth+tides

Wow, drawing the water into a huge well. Surprising we haven't found that yet. Sounds like it would create one heckuva current while drawing in and expelling all that water. I would think the forces involved would even create significant atmospheric effects.

[klaus54]

And you have no evidence, like just about always.

JM

Nope.

And you have nothing but claiming "Helios" have no evidence.

Deluded fantasies by Medieval-brained fideist nutters are not evidence, except perhaps for a schizophrenic.

[klaus54]

Only see islands off Italy.

JM

But not Italy itself?

When it's sunny in Italy, is it sunny in the U.S. as well?

[lilpixieofterror]

But not Italy itself?

When it's sunny in Italy, is it sunny in the U.S. as well?

When I've flown over seas, on a 12 hour trip, the time difference between the east coast and Brittan, is 6 hours. Likewise, trips in an aircraft going west-east are different than going east-west because of the earth's rotation.

I wonder how crazy JM will explain this stuff, unless of course, I'm also in on the conspiracy because I work in the AF and aircraft don't really fly like it's been described over the past century.